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Bold = Person 1
ITalics = Person 2

Person1: Sadly the transfer rates (HD-DVD player hardware and drive speed) for HD-DVD were based on 30BG discs, so the extra 21GB of space only allow for extra content and longer movies (way to go, now we can have those 5hour long movies on one disc ).


While the Blu-Ray transfer rates were based on 50GB allowing for higher video and sound quality.


So if the 51GB HD-DVD discs were to be used for movies then all the existing HD-DVD players and stand alone drives would be rendered useless.


Person2: Thats great and al except a movie encoded in VC1 does not need the bitrates Bluray can provide, Bluray has high bitrate capabilities because Sony wants people to continue to use MPEG2.


Batman Begins for HD-DVD got a 4.5 out of 5 for picture quality at High Def Digest, and Batman Begins has an average bitrate of 13MBPS.


Click on the other hand for Bluray got a 4 out of 5 for picture quality at High Def Digest, and Click has an average bitrate of 44MBPS.....


Person1: Ever wondered the reason God hatest you is because of your ignorance and blantant lies?


HD DVD video is encoded at 24Mbps (do notice it's a small 'b' as it's bits and not bytes) and Blu-Ray video is encoded at 40Mbps (do notice that Blu-Ray video can't have an average bitrate of 44Mbps).


Now to your silly claim about VC-1 not needing the bit-rate of Blu-Ray. As the huge crusading x-bot you have proven to be over and over again you must naturally take Microsoft's words as law:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win...2005/VC-1.aspx

Here you got it, 1080p video @ 24fps encoded with Microsoft's VC-1 damands for 45Mbps.


Neither of the formats are capable at containing 1080p video without cutting down on the quality.


H.264 demands for the video to be encoded at even higher bit-rates.


HD DVD is perfect for video in 720p but for marketing reasons and because the real diffeniteon of HD is 1080p, set by WTO and the NTSC+PAL boards back in the early 90's.


Also for your sad MPeG2 rambling which some still seem to live high on. Samsung released its Blu-Ray player too early and Sony had to back it up with content which was released on the cheapest discs (single layer) and encoded with the cheapes codec to minimize the financil loss. Sony also made sure to hold back the big titles.


The quality difference is bigger than the one between DVD and super bit DVDs, unless the movie is recorded with low quality film ala Apocalypto where the image gets all blured when the camera moves (not Mel's fault as he only had 40mill USD to work with).


So how about you please stop BSing around on this board? And while we are at it, stop being such a fanboy when rating games, it's pathetic.


NB: Never use a fast moving action movie like Batman Returns and a slow paced drama comedy like Click for video quality comparison, it's just braindead for obvious reasons.
 

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Originally Posted by 1loudsuv /forum/post/0


person 1 has to stoop to insulting him so his in the wrong just cause he wants to act immature

Yeah..And whats this about HD-DVD being encoded in 24Mbps? Is he simply just confused with the maximum bitrates of HDTV broadcasts?


Bluray is encoded at 40Mbps? Huh? WHats he talking about?


And whats that about Microsoft demanding 45Mbps for 1080p/24 with VC1??


And also, does H.264 demand for higher bitrates?
 

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for one thing, that microsoft site cites 45mbps as the MAXIMUM allowed for one of the "advanced" VC-1 profiles. mr. bold is acting like this is a minimum.


i read the rest and none of it even makes logical sense. not even worth discussing.
 
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