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Why 300 ohm (twin lead)/pre-amp

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I just put up (today) a Wingard 8 bay double bow tie antenna. It is replacing a 7 ft parabolic (which is something of an eye sore and other reasons). Anyway, the antenna and (I gather--since I have only limited experience in this area) has 300 ohm connections which requires a 300 ohm to 75 ohm converter to connect to coax. Why are antenna makers still using 300 ohm connections when the majority of transmission lines are now 75 ohm using coax cable? Is there some advantage of beginning the transmission side of things with twin lead cable? One more question--I am using the pre amp (blonder tongue--uhf/vhf) that was on my old antenna.

All of my digital stations are UHF. One station is a little problematic with a lot of drop outs. Since my pre amp is VHF/UHF would a dedicated UHF pre amp (such as the Channel Master 7775) help (I know I would have to try it to know for sure--but I am just asking in general. Hope I didn't put too much in one post. (Should add that all of my stations are in the same general direction. One station (Fox) is about 42 miles from me and at very low power, I do not get it at all. (My zip code is 36092.)
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You need to post your question here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...50#post5216550
I did post in my local thread, but this is also a general hardware question about twin lead which is not specific to any location and also a question about UHF only pre amps.
That's not your local thread..... It's called the "official AVS antenna topic" thread or something similar. I'm not trying to jack you around. I'd answer the question here but you'll probably get my answer as well as 2 or 3 other informed (maybe even better) answers over there.
Sorry for the misunderstanding. For some reason, I just assumed (I know)

that you were pointing me to the local thread. Really wasn't even aware there was a specific antenna thread. Edot: But looking at the link again--that is the local area forum.
I've never seen that thread before. I only look at my own local thread in the "Local HDTV" forum. Frankly, I'm surprised that it is located in that forum. I suspect that more members will see SD4934's post here.


Most common antenna designs tend to naturally have an impedance of 300 ohms. Antennas with 75 ohm terminals are generally antennas with 300 ohm active elements that have a built-in 300 ohm to 75 ohm adaptor.


I haven't taken apart any preamps in a couple of decades, but I'd guess that preamps with 300 ohm inputs don't have any input adaptors in them. I'm guessing that the 300 ohm input mates directly to the inputs of an op-amp's inverting and non-inverting terminals. If that is the case, then one probably would enjoy a half dB reduction in signal loss by eliminating the 300 to 75 ohm converter cartridge on the antenna, and another half dB by not having to convert the 75 ohm unbalanced input to a form compatible with the input of the pre-amps amplification component. Also, whenever you make a broadband impedance conversion device, it never is flat across the band. Therefore, I suspect that connecting a 300 ohm antenna output directly to a 300 ohm preamplifier input will tend to facilitate the development of a slightly better quality preamplified output signal.
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I've never seen that thread before. I only look at my own local thread in the "Local HDTV" forum. Frankly, I'm surprised that it is located in that forum. I suspect that more members will see SD4934's post here.

Over the past 11 mos, that thread has had 1479 replies and 112,768 views. That's around 4.5 replies/day and 337 views/day. Your participation would be welcome, I'm sure.:)
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Over the past 11 mos, that thread has had 1479 replies and 112,768 views. That's around 4.5 replies/day and 337 views/day. Your participation would be welcome, I'm sure.:)
Thanks. I always go directly to my local area thread and never noticed that thread before. I'm trying to read through it, there's a lot of info there.
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