Ok,
They are better than before by far with one exception: phantom center doesn't work.
Let me explain:
Skipping my whole room history, I'll just go from last config to current.
Both are 2.1 setup.
Last config:
wood flooring in condo, floor rug covering entire floor between speakers/display and listener.
Listener sits 9' away.
plasma flat on wall, speakers 6" away from the r and l sides of screen (towers on floor).
Under plasma is a cabinet that goes about a foot off the ground, there is almost a foot gap between the bottom of the cabinet and the screen.
Flanking the 2 speakers which flank the plasma are two narrow bookcases.
Electronics in bookcase.
The speakers are flush (actually sticking out a touch) from the face of the bookcases which have closed doors (not open shelving). Speakers aren't toed.
There is nothing on the wall and nothing above the bookcases/plasma.
Microfiber armchairs at first reflection points.
Advantages to this setup? crazy tight phantom center. Otherwise the rest is awful, and what I aimed to fix with the current config.
Current config:
electronics were placed on the cabinet under the plasma.
The two bookcases were removed entirely from the floor.
Now they are placed horizontally a foot below the ceiling and about a foot above the plasma.
The speakers are now, toed to the listener, about 1.5 feet away from the edges of the screen.
No change to anything else.
Advantages to this setup? Crazy large soundstage. Speakers are impossible to pinpoint. Depth of sound is tremendous.
Disadvantages to this setup? I guess echo? Now that there is a flat wall facing the listener (with that 'ledge' above the plasma acting to direct sound too?) dialogue is hard to discern.
I can't physically treat the room at all except for the wall the plasma is on.
(left wall is a window for 70% of the room, the other 30% is doorway).
(there is no right wall of the room, it goes into the dining room and then kitchen)
(behind listener are boocases/shelving flanking the couch and a mirror on the wall immediately behind)
The couch is about 1.5' from the rear wall.
How can I tighten the phantom center without buying a center channel?(albeit 2-3 room panels depending on brand can cost the same as a center so the idea is in the back of my mind).
I've messed with the toe and it hasn't helped the image focus.
Thanks,
Seth
They are better than before by far with one exception: phantom center doesn't work.
Let me explain:
Skipping my whole room history, I'll just go from last config to current.
Both are 2.1 setup.
Last config:
wood flooring in condo, floor rug covering entire floor between speakers/display and listener.
Listener sits 9' away.
plasma flat on wall, speakers 6" away from the r and l sides of screen (towers on floor).
Under plasma is a cabinet that goes about a foot off the ground, there is almost a foot gap between the bottom of the cabinet and the screen.
Flanking the 2 speakers which flank the plasma are two narrow bookcases.
Electronics in bookcase.
The speakers are flush (actually sticking out a touch) from the face of the bookcases which have closed doors (not open shelving). Speakers aren't toed.
There is nothing on the wall and nothing above the bookcases/plasma.
Microfiber armchairs at first reflection points.
Advantages to this setup? crazy tight phantom center. Otherwise the rest is awful, and what I aimed to fix with the current config.
Current config:
electronics were placed on the cabinet under the plasma.
The two bookcases were removed entirely from the floor.
Now they are placed horizontally a foot below the ceiling and about a foot above the plasma.
The speakers are now, toed to the listener, about 1.5 feet away from the edges of the screen.
No change to anything else.
Advantages to this setup? Crazy large soundstage. Speakers are impossible to pinpoint. Depth of sound is tremendous.
Disadvantages to this setup? I guess echo? Now that there is a flat wall facing the listener (with that 'ledge' above the plasma acting to direct sound too?) dialogue is hard to discern.
I can't physically treat the room at all except for the wall the plasma is on.
(left wall is a window for 70% of the room, the other 30% is doorway).
(there is no right wall of the room, it goes into the dining room and then kitchen)
(behind listener are boocases/shelving flanking the couch and a mirror on the wall immediately behind)
The couch is about 1.5' from the rear wall.
How can I tighten the phantom center without buying a center channel?(albeit 2-3 room panels depending on brand can cost the same as a center so the idea is in the back of my mind).
I've messed with the toe and it hasn't helped the image focus.
Thanks,
Seth