Why DONT manufacturers have Greyscale dialed in pre-sale?

because side by side next to a wall of really blue white (12000K) super bright(400cd/m) display a nicely calibrated (6500K) normal (120cd/m) display just looks dull.


TV's are designed to sell, not for the best picture.


I hear some pioneer displays can are closer than others and have great service menu controls to repair the factory settings.

if manufacturers dialed in accurate grayscales at 6500k color temperature they would get a lot of customers returning tv's complaining they're too dim or not buying in the first place.



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Originally Posted by sotti /forum/post/15408158


because side by side next to a wall of really blue white (12000K) super bright(400cd/m) display a nicely calibrated (6500K) normal (120cd/m) display just looks dull.


TV's are designed to sell, not for the best picture.


I hear some pioneer displays can are closer than others and have great service menu controls to repair the factory settings.

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pioneer kuro's even has a setting to set the tv for home or retail when coming out of service menu.

Displays are also generally set up by eye on the line, at least grayscale is. They get an upload of preset values, then the final white balance (grayscale) is done by eye, for "best white" in the case of my older Mitsubishi.

Very good points, and here's just another twist...


Imagine a production line with hundreds (and thousands) of TV's getting assembled, tested, packed and shipped out the door. If the major manufacturers attempted to calibrate all those TV's, (or even tried to get close) it would take forever to get all those TV's out the door. Which would mean decreased production, higher costs, etc (you get the idea).


Unfortunately MichaelTLV is right, the majority of customers out there aren't looking for a calibrated TV, they just want something big, flat, bright, colorful and sharp to hang on their walls. The minority of us who actually want a calibrated and correct (or as close to as possible) picture unfortunately have to deal with tolerances differences in the panel, and circuity behind the TV that only put us in the ballpark of being calibrated.

While I understand my Cinema mode on my PZ85 is pretty close, I still believe that the digital world allows for more sameness in a production line. It's not that impossible in the end. But I understand there is a bit of variance in the screen from unit to unit.


I guess the Pure/Cinema/Movie/Pro modes on these displays get "closer" to "accurate" with more money spent. I know the Kuro's were close to double the price of my TV at the time of purchase for the same size.


Thanks for the feedback.


C.