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You can't "transfer" videos, but the Hauppauge will allow your computer to record the Motorola's HD component output. There is some quality loss, but most content will still look quite good on the 13.5Mbps setting.


See the HTPC section for more information.
 

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You can't "transfer" videos, but the Hauppauge will allow your computer to record the Motorola's HD component output. There is some quality loss, but most content will still look quite good on the 13.5Mbps setting.


See the HTPC section for more information.

I thought that if you have some old recordings stored on your DVR you could transfer those to your PC using the PVR?
 

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I thought that if you have some old recordings stored on your DVR you could transfer those to your PC using the PVR?

As bfdtv explained, you're not really "transferring" them like you could with say, firewire. That would give you an exact, bit for bit digital copy. What you're doing with the PVR is recording the analog output, then digitizing that. It can still look good, but it's not a "transfer" per se.
 

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I thought that if you have some old recordings stored on your DVR you could transfer those to your PC using the PVR?

The TiVo is the only cable DVR with an actual "transfer" feature. You can't do that with the DVRs supplied by the cable company. More information here .


The Hauppauge HD PVR simply allows your computer to record component output, sort of like a HDTV VCR.
 

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As bfdtv explained, you're not really "transferring" them like you could with say, firewire. That would give you an exact, bit for bit digital copy. What you're doing with the PVR is recording the analog output, then digitizing that. It can still look good, but it's not a "transfer" per se.

Oh OK. Thanks for the explanation. So I basically just need to play back the video I want and then the PVR will record it? So if my video is 3 hrs long, it will take 3 hours to record unlike a true file transfer.


So just how bad will the video quality loss be like?
 

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Oh OK. Thanks for the explanation. So I basically just need to play back the video I want and then the PVR will record it? So if my video is 3 hrs long, it will take 3 hours to record unlike a true file transfer.


So just how bad will the video quality loss be like?

It's a consumer-quality 1-pass encoder. On anything except the highest bitrate, you will likely notice new artifacting.


If you have a powerful enough computer, you could very well transcode it when it's captured. I've had luck with 6mbit H.264, but that's using two-pass encoding. But it takes a long time; on the order of 11 hours per 2 hour movie on my computer, it's pretty old.
 

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nosoup,


There are many threads for the HD-PVR. There's one on the Mac forum and another on the PC forum.


Anyways, a guy named Steven Toth has developed a Mac application for the 1212. So where am I going with this?


Here's his website's page with sample files. You can see first hand the quality of the recordings and decide if you'd be happy with it.

http://www.steventoth.net/blog/produ...le-recordings/


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EDIT - does your Moto box have Firewire??? If it does (and it's active), you could use FW recording to get the videos onto your PC.
 

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nosoup,


There are many threads for the HD-PVR. There's one on the Mac forum and another on the PC forum.


Anyways, a guy named Steven Toth has developed a Mac application for the 1212. So where am I going with this?


Here's his website's page with sample files. You can see first hand the quality of the recordings and decide if you'd be happy with it.

http://www.steventoth.net/blog/produ...le-recordings/


ft


EDIT - does your Moto box have Firewire??? If it does (and it's active), you could use FW recording to get the videos onto your PC.

Thanks! I'm not sure if it has firewire. I know it has ESATA but it is not active so I doubt the FW is active. Cox sucks.
 

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The DCH3416 has firewire and the FCC requires it to be active, but you still have the problem of having to play back every recording manually to transfer to a PC. If you build a Myth, Sage, BeyondTV, etc. HTPC you can schedule recordings from firewire and bypass this step. All of this assumes that Cox is not copy-protecting the channels you want to record/play - if they are, you can't use firewire to a PC.


But the easy answer is to pitch that Moto crap and get a Tivo HD.
 

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The DCH3416 has firewire and the FCC requires it to be active, but you still have the problem of having to play back every recording manually to transfer to a PC. If you build a Myth, Sage, BeyondTV, etc. HTPC you can schedule recordings from firewire and bypass this step. All of this assumes that Cox is not copy-protecting the channels you want to record/play - if they are, you can't use firewire to a PC.


But the easy answer is to pitch that Moto crap and get a Tivo HD.

Yea, I think I might be leaning toward getting a Tivo HD but the only problem is I have some videos on my current DVR that I need to save to my PC.

It would be nice if I knew someone that has a PVR that I can borrow. Then I could use the $200+ that I would have spent on the PVR towards a Tivo.
 
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