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I work at Best Buy and am considering getting this bc of my great discount. http://www.bestbuy.com/site/yamaha-500w-5-1-ch-3d-home-theater-system/4372018.p?id=1219098067770&

Will I be disappointed or will it give me great sound? I have a BenQ w1070 and am about to buy a screen for it and wanted to complete the experience with the full surround sound setup as I am now using Sennheiser headphones.

Would I get much better sound out of buying the speakers and receivers separately? I own a 15 year old Yamaha receiver and 15 year old infinity studio monitors. Thanks!
 

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I work at Best Buy and am considering getting this bc of my great discount. http://www.bestbuy.com/site/yamaha-500w-5-1-ch-3d-home-theater-system/4372018.p?id=1219098067770&

Will I be disappointed or will it give me great sound? I have a BenQ w1070 and am about to buy a screen for it and wanted to complete the experience with the full surround sound setup as I am now using Sennheiser headphones.

Would I get much better sound out of buying the speakers and receivers separately? I own a 15 year old Yamaha receiver and 15 year old infinity studio monitors. Thanks!

Compared to the speakers you have, I think any HTIB I have ever heard would be a HUGE disappointment!

I would suggest that you get a good modern receiver, like a NAD T758 for example, and stick with the speakers you have.

You can add a center speaker and rear speakers.
 

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Would I get much better sound out of buying the speakers and receivers separately?
Yes. For one thing real subwoofers don't use 6.5 inch drivers. Even 8 inch is barely adequate for bedroom levels.
 

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Compared to the speakers you have, I thin any HTIB I have ever heard would be a HUGE disappointment!

I would suggest that you get a good modern receiver, like a NAD T758 for example, and stick with the speakers you have.

You can add a center speaker and rear speakers.
Ok, thx. Won't my 5.1 receiver be adequate?
 

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Ok, thx. Won't my 5.1 receiver be adequate?
It probably can't properly decode all the current formats, many of which didn't exist 15 years ago.
 

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Since you work at Best Buy you should have access to this Pioneer 5.1 package - designed by Andrew Jones - and acknowledged to be perhaps the best sounding budget speakers out there right now.

I have them - plus I also have much more expensive Onix Rockets - in a medium to small room the cheapie Pioneers sound just as good. They're ridiculously good for the money, and not much more than what you are proposing:

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/Speakers/Home+Theater+Speakers/SP-PK52FS
 
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DONT get a HTIB!
 

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I agree with Commsysman. Chances are the speakers you already have are better than the ones that come with the HTiB. So, going with a comparably priced receiver and using the speakers you already have would likely get you more channels/features and better sound quality (mostly a result of the better speakers). Something else to consider... If/when you decide to upgrade again in the future, if you go the HTiB route then you will have to replace everything (receiver and speakers) again as you usually can't use normal speakers with a HTiB nor can you use the speakers that come with a HTiB with anything other than the HTiB they came with. If you go with a separate receiver and speakers then you can upgrade just the receiver while continuing to use the speakers you already have. You can also upgrade your speakers one (in the case of center channel and subwoofer) or two (in the case of front mains or surrounds) at a time. Because speakers don't generally become outdated like receivers and HTiB's do, purchasing them separately means you only spend money on them when you want to buy a better sounding speaker. Once you have speakers you really like, more of your money is able to go toward the receiver upgrade.
 

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Since you work at Best Buy you should have access to this Pioneer 5.1 package - designed by Andrew Jones - and acknowledged to be perhaps the best sounding budget speakers out there right now.

I have them - plus I also have much more expensive Onix Rockets - in a medium to small room the cheapie Pioneers sound just as good. They're ridiculously good for the money, and not much more than what you are proposing:

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Home/Speakers/Home+Theater+Speakers/SP-PK52FS
Yes I get these for half off, should I get them? $120 a pair. How much better will they sound than my Infinity SM 185's? Studio monitors from 15 years ago, they're pretty clear and powerful though.

http://www.audioreview.com/cat/spe...finity-systems/sm185/prd_119637_1594crx.aspx

http://content.abt.com/get_documen...th=/images/products/INF1246 SM InfoSheet.pdf
 

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Yes I get these for half off, should I get them? $120 a pair. How much better will they sound than my Infinity SM 185's? Studio monitors from 15 years ago, they're pretty clear and powerful though.
Since you have owned the Infinity and you work at Best Buy,
and you can get a good deal - then my preference will be the
Sony Core speakers, they are real nice and will pancake the
HTIB speaker systems. Skip the Sony sub.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/searchp...t=n&iht=y&usc=All+Categories&ks=960&keys=keys
 

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It's a Yamaha HTR-5150. http://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio-visual/av-receivers-amps/htr/htr-5150_black__u/

How do I find out if it will play certain movies?
Your current AVR can handle lossy 5.1 Dolby Digital and DTS soundtracks as well as 2 channel PCM via. coaxial/optical digital audio inputs. It can also handle switching duties for video up to 480i resolution (Standard Definition) via. Composite RCA/S-Video inputs and outputs. This is DVD quality audio and video.

Your current AVR can't accept 5.1 lossless (either PCM or Dolby TrueHD/DTS-HD MA) or anything with more than 5.1 channels of audio except through it's 5.1 channel analog inputs. However, to use the analog inputs, your source device(s) would need to be able to decode HD audio and have at least 5.1 channels worth of analog pre-amp outputs. These are typically only found on higher end source devices. For example, a Blu-Ray player with at least 5.1 analog outputs runs about $400. It also can't handle switching duties for HD video (720p/1080i/1080p). This means you can't get the full video used on Blu-Ray discs, HD streaming, or broadcast HD channels unless you bypass your current AVR. While you can bypass the AVR by running video directly from your source devices to your TV (or through a separate HDMI/component switcher), it's not ideal. The bigger issue is the lack of support for HD audio. While most (if not all) HD content contains a lossy version of the soundtrack that will work with your AVR, you won't be getting the full sound quality from the content unless you go with more expensive source devices that can decode and have 5.1 channel analog outputs.
 

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Your current AVR can handle lossy 5.1 Dolby Digital and DTS soundtracks as well as 2 channel PCM via. coaxial/optical digital audio inputs. It can also handle switching duties for video up to 480i resolution (Standard Definition) via. Composite RCA/S-Video inputs and outputs. This is DVD quality audio and video.

Your current AVR can't accept 5.1 lossless (either PCM or Dolby TrueHD/DTS-HD MA) or anything with more than 5.1 channels of audio except through it's 5.1 channel analog inputs. However, to use the analog inputs, your source device(s) would need to be able to decode HD audio and have at least 5.1 channels worth of analog pre-amp outputs. These are typically only found on higher end source devices. For example, a Blu-Ray player with at least 5.1 analog outputs runs about $400. It also can't handle switching duties for HD video (720p/1080i/1080p). This means you can't get the full video used on Blu-Ray discs, HD streaming, or broadcast HD channels unless you bypass your current AVR. While you can bypass the AVR by running video directly from your source devices to your TV (or through a separate HDMI/component switcher), it's not ideal. The bigger issue is the lack of support for HD audio. While most (if not all) HD content contains a lossy version of the soundtrack that will work with your AVR, you won't be getting the full sound quality from the content unless you go with more expensive source devices.
So there's a big difference in sound quality between lossy and lossless? I don't care about the video going through it I just run it direct. What's a good brand to get at Best Buy? Lookin to spend no more than $200 w discount.
 

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So there's a big difference in sound quality between lossy and lossless? I don't care about the video going through it I just run it direct. What's a good brand to get at Best Buy? Lookin to spend no more than $200 w discount.
I don't know that I've ever done an A/B comparison of lossy versus lossless surround sound audio, using the same receiver and speakers for both scenarios. I do know that the sound quality with my 2 year old HD-capable 7.2 channel AVR playing lossless audio from Blu-Ray discs sounds better to me than lossy audio played thru my old (circa 2000) 5.1 AVR by the same manufacturer. How much of that was due to the content and how much was due to the AVR, I don't know. I suggest that you listen to some newer AVR's playing HD audio from Blu-Ray disc so that you can judge for yourself rather than trust someone else's ears anyway.
 

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You get the same discount on open box? I know my local ones have had some decent pioneers for cheap. Some had the vsx-524 for $160 open box for customers
 

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I am amused that a BB employee comes here for advice rather than asking his fellow co-workers! :D

Probably the smart thing to do. :rolleyes:
 
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