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I have a pioneer elite pro720 with a dv59avi as my dvd player right now. If I get a PS3 and use component cables with I see a better picture? I know that the ps3 upconverts standard dvds and wondered if it work work on my set or not. Thanks.
 

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with sd dvd and upscaling it varies but probably not that much difference.

but with bluray from the PS3 you should get the best pic that your pioneer can produce.
 

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Or better still, buy a cheap HDMI cable from MonoPrice and get the best that digital connections offer.... (this assumes the TV will take HDMI of course)


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i wouldnt buy a PS3 for the sole purpose of better picture quality.

if you want to play BD movies there are cheaper and/or better options.


if your a gamer, then by all means do it but I wouldnt suggest it for the idea that your picture is going to be so much better.


The pioneer elite DV59 is reported as a pretty decent player. It has great SD playback and great audio.


Again...if you looking to go BD, then I think the PS3 front end is crappy unless you want to play games and such.
 

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Originally Posted by firebrick /forum/post/15405315


I have a pioneer elite pro720 with a dv59avi as my dvd player right now. If I get a PS3 and use component cables with I see a better picture? I know that the ps3 upconverts standard dvds and wondered if it work work on my set or not. Thanks.

59AVi really shines in HDMI 1080i mode. Though it's nothing special over component 480p (imho). PS3 doesn't upconvert copyright protected DVDs over component video. You'll have to make copies of your DVDs to enable upscale over component (disable micravision).

I have PRO-730HDi and it's unlike 720HD has 2 HDMI inputs. I have both 59AVI and PS3. I rarely watch DVDs since I've got my PS3 (netflix and blockbuster rentals are awesome). For DVD playback I would pick 59AVi, though PS3 is really good too. It's Blu-Ray player to beat and then some. I ended up moving my 59AVI to music room where I use it as CD-transport. I calibrated my TV, all inputs for all scan rates (480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i), so I had a choice to compare PS3 component video vs HDMI in RGB and YCbCr modes. With majority of video components it's easy to pick a preferable connection type HDMI or Component, though PS3 is excellent in both modes so I don't have preferance for Blu-Ray watching (it's a different story for XMB:component vs HDMI RGB).
 

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trapperjohn I was looking at in the long run getting a projector and I though ps3 was the end all solution from what people say. I would rather have pioneer elite I have owned all elite for about 7 years and love them. I personally would rather have a wii even though I have only played it once and it was fun. Never had a playstation 1,2 or3. I really am still very happy with the picture on my elite 720, when I had voom(old hd satellite company) I couldnt see the picture ever getting better than that!
 

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I have a pioneer elite pro720 with a dv59avi as my dvd player right now. If I get a PS3 and use component cables with I see a better picture? I know that the ps3 upconverts standard dvds and wondered if it work work on my set or not. Thanks.

The PS3 will only upconvert standard DVDs through HDMI (or HDMI to DVI).


Even for Blu-ray - Blu-ray disc producers and put in a command to not allow high resolution output through component. Most have not, but it could happen.
 

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i have a ps3 and even regular dvd's look better through the ps3 upconverted to 1080i and most think that the ps3 is the best blu-ray player out now and one of the better upconverting dvd players. here is a small article about it . http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10016208-1.html

but what are you comparing it to?

this guy has one of the top of the line DVD players. I would be interested to see a comparison between it and the PS3 for SD output quality.
 

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Why is ANYBODY watching SD content, upconverted or otherwise, on a HD display?


As to the ps3 for blu ray, there are cheaper approaches, but none better. If you even think you might enjoy gaming, the ps3 is the only choice.


People need to stop enduring SD and begin INSISTING on HD. The differences are huge and we need to drive a stake through the heart of SD.


Upconverting SD material is like remastering 8-track tapes. What's the point?
 

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well without hdmi I am kinda stuck with sd for now, strange though because hd looked great with component cables and voom


I have never read or heard that component will not work. I have my cable box hooked up with component it works fine. Why wouldn't it work with a BD player? Why would they include this connection if it does not work for HD? Have you tried it? Sound like the only way to now for you is to buy it and try it. Just make sure you can return it before you buy it with no restocking fees and what not.


Also the PS3 is a great BD player but if you really are not into the games you should look at some of the other BD players out there, just be care full. You need a profile 2.0 that can get firmware updates. Cheap BD don't offer firmware updates or profile 2.0 and that means not all movies will play on them, mostly the new movies.


I have a PS3 hooked up with a HDMI to DVI.
 

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but what are you comparing it to?

this guy has one of the top of the line DVD players. I would be interested to see a comparison between it and the PS3 for SD output quality.

Does this top on the line DVD PLAYER upconvert? If not then your still missing a lot from the DVD being watched. Last time I checked a DVD being watched on my PS3 just isn't SD. It's always upconverted and looks like something in-between a DVD and a BD but nothing like the SD DVD that it is. If the DVD player is only a DVD player the best it can do is 480. It didn't need to any better than that and won't.


So there is no comparison especially when you add all the features of the PS3 over any BD player. CNET wrote it out in simple English many times over why the PS3 is the top BD player. You can love your DVD's even more with the PS3 or other BD player.
 

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Why is ANYBODY watching SD content, upconverted or otherwise, on a HD display?


As to the ps3 for blu ray, there are cheaper approaches, but none better. If you even think you might enjoy gaming, the ps3 is the only choice.


People need to stop enduring SD and begin INSISTING on HD. The differences are huge and we need to drive a stake through the heart of SD.


Upconverting SD material is like remastering 8-track tapes. What's the point?

Because people have a lot of SD-DVDs. I don't think people are going to rush out and replace their entire collection with Blurays. Especially considering many things are still available only on DVD.
 

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I have never read or heard that component will not work. I have my cable box hooked up with component it works fine. Why wouldn't it work with a BD player? Why would they include this connection if it does not work for HD? Have you tried it? Sound like the only way to now for you is to buy it and try it. Just make sure you can return it before you buy it with no restocking fees and what not.


Also the PS3 is a great BD player but if you really are not into the games you should look at some of the other BD players out there, just be care full. You need a profile 2.0 that can get firmware updates. Cheap BD don't offer firmware updates or profile 2.0 and that means not all movies will play on them, mostly the new movies.


I have a PS3 hooked up with a HDMI to DVI.

well i thought, and read from about that bluray discs were copyrighted as to not work at full hd over component video cables
 

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There is an option in the BD scpec for an Image Constraint Token (ICT for short), where if they turn it on it will limit the component video output to 480p. So far the studios are choosing not to turn the ICT flag on, and say that won't any time in the near future because they realize many of the HDTVs out there right now were made before HDMI was out.


There have been a couple of movies that have come out with the ICT flag turned on. I believe the studios involved admitted it was a mistake, and most of them were in Europe from what I remember.
 

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well i thought, and read from about that bluray discs were copyrighted as to not work at full hd over component video cables

You won't get 1080p with Blu-ray player over component video. It max out at 1080i due to copyrights which in itself is pretty stupid as nowdays any Blu-Ray movie can be ripped on PC (decision to limit blu-rays to 1080i over component video was made before Blu-Ray encription was hacked). PS3 will play games in 1080p over component but not Blu-Rays. Your TV doesn't support 1080p so you shouldn't worry about this. Your best bet like I said is to get PS3 and start watching Blu-Rays. You can get HD fury and enjoy PS3 DVD upconversion (I would get the one with component video out though). Like I said before, once you see Blu-Ray on your TV you wouldn't want to watch DVD version of the same movie.

BTW you should get your pioneer calibrated (at the very least clean your optics).
 

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I have never read or heard that component will not work.

Component works fine when it's allowed. But that's one of the DVD forum rules... no upconverting DVD over a component output. There are devices that have broken those rules, but the vast majority abide by them.
 
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