I installed Windows 7 on a spare hard drive last night and so far, I am pretty impressed. While it did not automatically install the old HDTV Wonder, it does work using the latest driver from ati. Sweet. The Media Center is very nice and had no problem scanning for channels. All in all, this is what Vista should have been.
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I found your posting about getting the HDTV Wonder card to work under Windows 7 beta. You said that you used the latest driver and it works. I have one of these cards, so I am wondering what driver it was that you actually used. I downloaded the HDTV Wonder drivers for XP (the ones listed as WDM drivers) and that didn't seem to work. Should I have used other drivers to get this card to work? Any help you can provide me would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
7 saw the card and installed the audio driver automatically... Then I installed the "6-1 hdtv 83-2036 wdm.exe" driver from ati/amd. If I remember correctly, it hung at one point and I had to click 'retry" a couple of times and then it finished. After I rebooted, the device manager showed everything installed correctly. Opened MC and did the tv set up. Works great. This was on a clean install of 7 on a separate hard drive from xp. Was yours a clean install or an upgrade install?
You can also just go to device manager and do a "driver update" on the devices shown as unknown that represent your HDTV Wonder. There's no need to install the ATI driver manually. I don't know why it doesn't install the driver during installation, but mine didn't either.
I didn't think to do that since it went and did updates automatically and didn't install them at that point. Good to know that MS has the drivers on their update site though.
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You can also just go to device manager and do a "driver update" on the devices shown as unknown that represent your HDTV Wonder. There's no need to install the ATI driver manually. I don't know why it doesn't install the driver during installation, but mine didn't either.
I didn't think to do that since it went and did updates automatically and didn't install them at that point. Good to know that MS has the drivers on their update site though.
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What version of Windows & are you using? 32 bit or 64 bit?
Im using 64 bit and Windows 7 found all the drivers for my HDTV Wonder, it took a second try for it to find the BDA Capture device but its all setup and MCE found my local channels and the signal strength (settings->TV->Tv Signal->Digital TV Antenna Signal Strength) is strong for the channels but It I keep getting "No TV Signal".
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I installed Windows 7 on a spare hard drive last night and so far, I am pretty impressed. While it did not automatically install the old HDTV Wonder, it does work using the latest driver from ati. Sweet. The Media Center is very nice and had no problem scanning for channels. All in all, this is what Vista should have been.
What version of Windows & are you using? 32 bit or 64 bit?
Im using 64 bit and Windows 7 found all the drivers for my HDTV Wonder, it took a second try for it to find the BDA Capture device but its all setup and MCE found my local channels and the signal strength (settings->TV->Tv Signal->Digital TV Antenna Signal Strength) is strong for the channels but It I keep getting "No TV Signal".
I am not sure how I did it, but it is possible to get Windows 7 MC to find both the Digital channels and the Analog channels. I had found an earlier thread regarding this for Vista and they said it was impossible for Windows MC to do this with the HDTV wonder. first, i tried installing the MS software suggested at windows update. that didn't work for me. then I read this thread about installing the latest ATI driver. that didn't work for me. I remember reading another posting somewhere about an MCEE.zip file (Kram ATI driver) which I had downloaded on Vista and that didn't seem to help much. I installed that file on Win 7 and also not much changed. I also downloaded and installed the latest Vista driver for my integrated video card from the ATI/AMD website. after all this, I only had the Digital Channels working. I wanted my cable channels as well, so I installed the XP software for the HDTV wonder hoping it would work. It didn't either, so out of frustration I went back to the earliest restore point available that day. After the restore, surprisingly everything worked. I know that is quite a process, but as of yet, I am not sure which things made it activate both the digital and the analog tuner capability of the HDTV wonder.
Your cable is analog? What is going to happen after the transition in feb?
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I am not sure how I did it, but it is possible to get Windows 7 MC to find both the Digital channels and the Analog channels. I had found an earlier thread regarding this for Vista and they said it was impossible for Windows MC to do this with the HDTV wonder. first, i tried installing the MS software suggested at windows update. that didn't work for me. then I read this thread about installing the latest ATI driver. that didn't work for me. I remember reading another posting somewhere about an MCEE.zip file (Kram ATI driver) which I had downloaded on Vista and that didn't seem to help much. I installed that file on Win 7 and also not much changed. I also downloaded and installed the latest Vista driver for my integrated video card from the ATI/AMD website. after all this, I only had the Digital Channels working. I wanted my cable channels as well, so I installed the XP software for the HDTV wonder hoping it would work. It didn't either, so out of frustration I went back to the earliest restore point available that day. After the restore, surprisingly everything worked. I know that is quite a process, but as of yet, I am not sure which things made it activate both the digital and the analog tuner capability of the HDTV wonder.
Your cable is analog? What is going to happen after the transition in feb?
I'm using 32 bit 7. I assume you rebooted the computer after the updates? Mine didn't work properly until after rebooting.
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What version of Windows & are you using? 32 bit or 64 bit?
Im using 64 bit and Windows 7 found all the drivers for my HDTV Wonder, it took a second try for it to find the BDA Capture device but its all setup and MCE found my local channels and the signal strength (settings->TV->Tv Signal->Digital TV Antenna Signal Strength) is strong for the channels but It I keep getting "No TV Signal".
I'm using 32 bit 7. I assume you rebooted the computer after the updates? Mine didn't work properly until after rebooting.
Absolutely nothing. Forgive what may seem as anger directed at you (it's not), I just don't get how people aren't understanding that this digital transition only has to do with OVER THE AIR signals, not cable or satellite. Analog cable will still be analog cable until the cable companies decide otherwise.
It seems that all the money our government has put in to funding education on the transition was pretty much wasted. I had a friend of mine get into an argument with me because he thought he needed to have an HDTV or an HD cable/satellite box after February because he didn't understand the difference between DTV and HDTV. And when people on the "tech" side of things still aren't clear, it really hits home that this was not the best handled process.
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Your cable is analog? What is going to happen after the transition in feb?
Absolutely nothing. Forgive what may seem as anger directed at you (it's not), I just don't get how people aren't understanding that this digital transition only has to do with OVER THE AIR signals, not cable or satellite. Analog cable will still be analog cable until the cable companies decide otherwise.
It seems that all the money our government has put in to funding education on the transition was pretty much wasted. I had a friend of mine get into an argument with me because he thought he needed to have an HDTV or an HD cable/satellite box after February because he didn't understand the difference between DTV and HDTV. And when people on the "tech" side of things still aren't clear, it really hits home that this was not the best handled process.
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sorry to bring up an old post but im also running vista ultimate sp2 x64 and have the same issue as a couple of posts above...drivers are all installed from windows update and media center sees tuner and shows signal strength and everything but when you tune to a channel all i goet is a black screen with no audio and an eventual message that says no tv signal...anyone come up with a fix??
Has anyone that's installed the ATI HD Wonder in Win7, does it work with clearQAM stations? I know the ATI drivers doesn't support QAM in windows, but the hardware does support QAM like the drivers for Linux based MythTV setups. It would be awesome if the MS drivers for the HD wonder supports clear QAM.
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I just built a new system and installed Windows 7 on one of my two hard drives. The other drive has XP on it. I have them both set up in a RAID 0 array. I wondered if the card would still work so I searched for HDTV Wonder and Windows 7 info and found this thread.
That damn 7 is so cool! It detected my old HDTV Wonder card and automatically put the drivers in and poof!, I booted it up tonight and watched some over the air TV and some internet clips too. I didn't even think the HDTV Wonder card would work anymore after XP but it works like new! Gotta love the 7!!!
That damn 7 is so cool! It detected my old HDTV Wonder card and automatically put the drivers in and poof!, I booted it up tonight and watched some over the air TV and some internet clips too. I didn't even think the HDTV Wonder card would work anymore after XP but it works like new! Gotta love the 7!!!
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any one figure out whats going on? im having the same problem. All is well in signal strength area but i cant get any tv channels!
Im running win 7 32bit ( i tried 64 bit and had the same problem)
And yes; i rebooted lol
Im running win 7 32bit ( i tried 64 bit and had the same problem)
And yes; i rebooted lol
I didn't expect my HDTV wonder to work under Windows 7, and was really surprised when it did, after some updates and restarts.
My PC is setup to dual boot between Win 7 and XP, using separate drives for the op system.
After several days of trials and errors, it seems that I can get the HDTV wonder to work under both OSes, but sometimes something will get setup in the card and nothing but removal of power will make the tuner work when I switch between XP and Win 7. It goes both ways, so apparently something specific to the OS gets setup and there is nothing in the software to do a reset when it is started. The channels don't get lost, but the TV shows no signal when it is started. It takes more than just switching between OSes as sometimes I can switch and have the TV work in either OS without having to power down the PC. It probably has something to do with operating the tuner, but so far I haven't figured out what specifically causes the problem.
I use Media Center in Win 7 and ATI Multimedia Center in XP. Media center never worked as well as the ATI software when I used it under XP.
Any ideas or any software that will reset the card without having to do a power down?
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Doug
My PC is setup to dual boot between Win 7 and XP, using separate drives for the op system.
After several days of trials and errors, it seems that I can get the HDTV wonder to work under both OSes, but sometimes something will get setup in the card and nothing but removal of power will make the tuner work when I switch between XP and Win 7. It goes both ways, so apparently something specific to the OS gets setup and there is nothing in the software to do a reset when it is started. The channels don't get lost, but the TV shows no signal when it is started. It takes more than just switching between OSes as sometimes I can switch and have the TV work in either OS without having to power down the PC. It probably has something to do with operating the tuner, but so far I haven't figured out what specifically causes the problem.
I use Media Center in Win 7 and ATI Multimedia Center in XP. Media center never worked as well as the ATI software when I used it under XP.
Any ideas or any software that will reset the card without having to do a power down?
Thanks,
Doug
My HDTV Wonder is running under Win 7 64 RC bld 7100 on an AMD64X2 3800+ processor. I found another posting that said that the tuner does not revive from an S1 Sleep state and the only way the poster found to revive it was to cycle the power.
That seems to agree with my findings, although I hadn't attributed it to Sleep as of yet. I thought I had some recordings scheduled for this AM, but when I checked there was nothing and the tuner was inop.
MCE seemed to recognize that it missed the recording and scheduled another occurrence of in later in the day.
This is bizarre!
I'll see if it will record if I don't let it go to sleep before the scheduled record time.
That seems to agree with my findings, although I hadn't attributed it to Sleep as of yet. I thought I had some recordings scheduled for this AM, but when I checked there was nothing and the tuner was inop.
MCE seemed to recognize that it missed the recording and scheduled another occurrence of in later in the day.
This is bizarre!
I'll see if it will record if I don't let it go to sleep before the scheduled record time.
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Mine works great under 7 but sometimes when I try to watch over the air TV, the media center will say that there is no signal on this channel or something like that, and it won't show any picture.
I found out that the reason it does this is because my TV antenna is not picking up the weak ass digital signal from one of the TV stations. lol So, it's not really 7's fault, it's the TV station broadcasting a weak signal and my antenna can't pick it up good enough to start the media center's TV player.
All I have to do to fix it is to start my TV player on another TV station that has a stronger digital signal, then once it shows a picture, I can simply switch channels to the weaker TV station and it will then show a picture! Strange the way it does that sometimes but at least I can watch my channels. I still love the 7!
I found out that the reason it does this is because my TV antenna is not picking up the weak ass digital signal from one of the TV stations. lol So, it's not really 7's fault, it's the TV station broadcasting a weak signal and my antenna can't pick it up good enough to start the media center's TV player.
All I have to do to fix it is to start my TV player on another TV station that has a stronger digital signal, then once it shows a picture, I can simply switch channels to the weaker TV station and it will then show a picture! Strange the way it does that sometimes but at least I can watch my channels. I still love the 7!
I haven't found anything that will bring the HDTV wonder back to life once it goes into the sleep state (other than removal of power). Even if I boot into XP without doing a power down, the tuner shows no signal.
SLEEP never caused any problems under XP and it still doesn't. I installed a USB tuner from another desktop (for use under Win 7) and it seems to work as it should after resuming from SLEEP.
Hopefully when I get a released version of 7 on the machine it will fix things. If not, there may be an HDTV wonder up for sale.
I'm pleased with the way Win 7 works on my XP HTPC. I'm not sure if it is worth the effort to upgrade it on either my Vista Laptop or my other Vista desktop. So far for my use, the only compelling reason to upgrade is the improved way TV and recording is handled on Win 7 Media Center compared to the way it was on Vista Media Center or XP MC 2005
SLEEP never caused any problems under XP and it still doesn't. I installed a USB tuner from another desktop (for use under Win 7) and it seems to work as it should after resuming from SLEEP.
Hopefully when I get a released version of 7 on the machine it will fix things. If not, there may be an HDTV wonder up for sale.
I'm pleased with the way Win 7 works on my XP HTPC. I'm not sure if it is worth the effort to upgrade it on either my Vista Laptop or my other Vista desktop. So far for my use, the only compelling reason to upgrade is the improved way TV and recording is handled on Win 7 Media Center compared to the way it was on Vista Media Center or XP MC 2005
The HDTV wonder is a very old piece of hardware. I'm happy it works at all. I really never expected it to. Since I never let my HTPC go into sleep mode I haven't experienced your problem. BTW, your HDTV wonder is worth about 5.00 on ebay so you might want to just let it run or shut it down when you are not using it. Mine is such low power, I just let it run.
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I haven't found anything that will bring the HDTV wonder back to life once it goes into the sleep state (other than removal of power). Even if I boot into XP without doing a power down, the tuner shows no signal.
SLEEP never caused any problems under XP and it still doesn't. I installed a USB tuner from another desktop (for use under Win 7) and it seems to work as it should after resuming from SLEEP.
Hopefully when I get a released version of 7 on the machine it will fix things. If not, there may be an HDTV wonder up for sale.
I'm pleased with the way Win 7 works on my XP HTPC. I'm not sure if it is worth the effort to upgrade it on either my Vista Laptop or my other Vista desktop. So far for my use, the only compelling reason to upgrade is the improved way TV and recording is handled on Win 7 Media Center compared to the way it was on Vista Media Center or XP MC 2005
The HDTV wonder is a very old piece of hardware. I'm happy it works at all. I really never expected it to. Since I never let my HTPC go into sleep mode I haven't experienced your problem. BTW, your HDTV wonder is worth about 5.00 on ebay so you might want to just let it run or shut it down when you are not using it. Mine is such low power, I just let it run.
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