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I'm looking at replacing my Panasonic BDT-100 with a Blu-Ray disc player for my PC. I currently have it hooked up to my Onkyon-NR1008 via HDMI out on my HD7970s and then out to my Panasonic VT30.


I would like to get the best image and sound possible out of the set up. I'd also like to be able to do 3D. Can I get some suggestions on everything that I need? Like what drive would be the best and also software to use.


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The cheapest inexpensive blu-ray reader should be just fine. I recommend checking out newegg.


Blu-ray software that supports 3D includes TMT5, PowerDVD, and WinDVD. Imo, you're still better off just using a dedicated blu-ray player though.
 

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Originally Posted by lockdown571  /t/1449280/wish-to-play-blu-rays-on-pc#post_22776760


The cheapest inexpensive blu-ray reader should be just fine. I recommend checking out newegg.

Blu-ray software that supports 3D includes TMT5, PowerDVD, and WinDVD. Imo, you're still better off just using a dedicated blu-ray player though.

Can you elaborate on why? I'm having issues with the drive on my panny player and figure that it'd be cheaper to go with a PC option and not lose quality. It is like a $500 or more difference if I try to get a good dedicated player. Is the difference really that worth it?
 

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IMO if you want to play disks, stick with the standalone player. For the PC, rip the disks to your HDD for playback and use a nice media frontend.
 

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Originally Posted by lockdown571  /t/1449280/wish-to-play-blu-rays-on-pc#post_22776760


The cheapest inexpensive blu-ray reader should be just fine. I recommend checking out newegg.

Blu-ray software that supports 3D includes TMT5, PowerDVD, and WinDVD. Imo, you're still better off just using a dedicated blu-ray player though.

I second this.


I paid $45 for a BD drive and was forced to use PowerDVD. I say forced, because that is what came with the drive, and I found it terrible. If I wanted a better software I would have to buy TMT5, which is currently at $90 I believe. I fought endlessly trying to have PowerDVD play my Blu-Rays without stuttering on any scenes with movement. In my experience I did lose quality by going the PC route vs continuing to use my PS3.


I don't see why you think you need to spend $500 to get a good dedicated Blu-Ray player. I purchased a good dedicated(non 3D) player for $60 a week ago. You can easily get a good 3D player for around $100. Which would cost less than going the PC route and save you headache with trying to get the software to function properly.
 

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Devices designed to do one thing and one thing only tend to work better. I've personally never liked any of the licensed blu-ray players for PCs. There are bugs, frequent updates, crashes, etc. With my Panasonic DMP-BDT220, I put in the disc and it plays. Other than occasional software updates, there's no fuss.
 

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I've never had any real problems with using TMT5, at least concerning playback (had a remote issue with TMT3 and tha MediaBroswer issue with launching TMT5, but both are worked out). I don't ever play straight from the discs though, using AnyDVD HD to rip them to the hard drive.


To the OP, it really depends what you want. For me the primary purpose of having BluRay (and DVD) playback on my HTPC was that it allowed me to go down to having only one piece of equipment that handled both DVR funcationality as well as movie playback. Additionally, it allowed me to rip everything to my server and hence no dealing with discs. If neither of those are a concern, then a dedicated player will definitely be easier and MAY produce better quality. It's all about needs.
 

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Even for legitimate playback of purchased/rental BD on a legitimate PC with legitimate TMT/PDVD etc you will not get many disks to play.


You still need AnyDVD HD running in the background for "nearly" perfect playback.
 

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If you are going to use a PC for BD playback, you really need AnyDVD HD and TMT5 or PowerDVD (Non Cinavia versions)

AnyDVD will fix 99% of problems on any software player new or old versions included.

It can be just as good as a standalone and better in some cases, for example if you want to skip the menus/trailers/warnings, enable AnyDVD's Speedmenu feature and you can get straight into the main movie in seconds.

I have a PS3 and a Panasonic Standalone that I hardly use at all now.


My advice -

AnyDVD HD, TMT5 and PowerDVD all come with free trials, so why not test it for yourself and see how it works for you, if you don't like it then just buy another standalone and uninstall the software trials.


Edit - Sorry I just noticed you don't have a BD Drive in your PC so you can't test any software, in that case its up to you, it might be best sticking with a cheap standalone.
 

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Originally Posted by mungee  /t/1449280/wish-to-play-blu-rays-on-pc/0_50#post_22778679


Even for legitimate playback of purchased/rental BD on a legitimate PC with legitimate TMT/PDVD etc you will not get many disks to play.

You still need AnyDVD HD running in the background for "nearly" perfect playback.

This is a wildly inaccurate broad-brush comment from my experience


I've never used a trial of or purchased AnyDVD HD (It's good software, but I've not had a need for it yet)


I've tried both PDVD and TMT with complete success. Granted that was only 10 titles, but surely the statement "you will not get many discs to play" would have warranted that 1 of those 10 wouldn't have played.


To turn the tables, which discs have you experienced trouble playing back with PDVD or TMT?
 

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For playback w/o 3D (yet) you can also use the Free version of DVDFab Passkey


Passkey lite and XBMC Frodo have started the main title of every blu ray I've tested so far with no additional work other than navigating to the "Play Disc" option in XBMC
 

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+1 on XBMC Frodo for 2D if you don't need menus , in my tests on 50+ discs (Combined with AnyDVD), Frodo selected the main title perfectly on all but 3 discs (2 had fake playlists) with Speedmenus enabled those 3 discs also worked in Frodo.


I'm not sure how PC BD playback got such a bad rep, I've tested hundreds of discs on various software and never had the issues that some people claim. I have had a few disc that TMT/PowerDVD didn't like but nothing AnyDVD couldn't fix (and I'm guessing DVDFab Passkey would do the same)
 

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Originally Posted by acejh1987  /t/1449280/wish-to-play-blu-rays-on-pc#post_22779440


+1 on XBMC Frodo for 2D if you don't need menus , in my tests on 50+ discs (Combined with AnyDVD), Frodo selected the main title perfectly on all but 3 discs (2 had fake playlists) with Speedmenus enabled those 3 discs also worked in Frodo.

I'm not sure how PC BD playback got such a bad rep, I've tested hundreds of discs on various software and never had the issues that some people claim. I have had a few disc that TMT/PowerDVD didn't like but nothing AnyDVD couldn't fix (and I'm guessing DVDFab Passkey would do the same)

I think they've got a bad rep partly because you apparently must use decrypting software to get some titles to work. That's a pretty annoying and expensive proposition when a $100 dedicated blu-ray player can play all discs perfectly.
 

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I'm talking about bad rep for BD Playback regardless of what software is needed.


Dark_Slayer just mentioned free decrypting software that works.


A $100 standalone can not skip menus/trailers/warnings and playback the main movie in seconds and will not playback discs from all regions, if you have one that does all this then please post the model number, so I can purchase and test it.
 

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Originally Posted by acejh1987  /t/1449280/wish-to-play-blu-rays-on-pc#post_22779527


I'm talking about bad rep for BD Playback regardless of what software is needed.

Dark_Slayer just mentioned free decrypting software that works.

A $100 standalone can not skip menus/trailers/warnings and playback the main movie in seconds and will not playback discs from all regions, if you have one that does all this then please post the model number, so I can purchase and test it.

I'm not entirely sure how the free version of DVDFab Passkey works. From their website :


"Compared with registered version, this free Passkey Lite has its own limitation on dealing with certain protections on some DVD/Blu-ray movies. In other words, Passkey Lite cannot help you backup movies with certain protections, but, you can still freely watch them."


Does that mean it will decrypt all movies and allow you to watch them in TMT5? I'm not sure what "freely watch them" means. Is it actually decrypting them?


The OP didn't say anything about playing discs from other regions or skipping trailers and warnings, so I'm not sure where you're going with that. If those are his requirements, then obviously he should go with the HTPC route with AnyDVD HD + TMT5 or some other solution. If that isn't a priority, then IMO the average Joe would be better off with a dedicated blu-ray player.
 

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Originally Posted by lockdown571  /t/1449280/wish-to-play-blu-rays-on-pc/0_50#post_22779581


I'm not entirely sure how the free version of DVDFab Passkey works. From their website :

"Compared with registered version, this free Passkey Lite has its own limitation on dealing with certain protections on some DVD/Blu-ray movies. In other words, Passkey Lite cannot help you backup movies with certain protections, but, you can still freely watch them.

The lite version decrypts the disc (in the drive for my use) for playback with any iso player that can then handle the A/V decode
 

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Originally Posted by lockdown571  /t/1449280/wish-to-play-blu-rays-on-pc#post_22779581


The OP didn't say anything about playing discs from other regions or skipping trailers and warnings, so I'm not sure where you're going with that.

My simple point is a PC can playback BD equally as good as any standalone and gives you more options (Such as all region and ability to skip warnings trailers)


What is it you can't understand from that point?


Also the OP never even asked about standalone players or even wanted to compare them - title of the thread - Wish to play Blu-Rays on PC...
 

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Originally Posted by acejh1987  /t/1449280/wish-to-play-blu-rays-on-pc#post_22779656


My simple point is a PC can playback BD equally as good as any standalone and gives you more options (Such as all region and ability to skip warnings trailers)

What is it you can't understand from that point?

Also the OP never even asked about standalone players or even wanted to compare them - title of the thread - Wish to play Blu-Rays on PC...

Haha, I can assure there's nothing about your posts I don't understand. The OP is coming from a standalone blu-ray player. His concerns are cost and quality. I was wary of the DVDFab Passkey Lite solution, because DVDFab's own website implies that it cannot decrypt all blu-rays. I'm wagering a guess that the same blu-rays DVDFab Passkey Lite can't decrypt are the same ones TMT5 may struggle with. Dark_Slayer is suggesting that the Lite version is sufficient, although I'm still a bit wary as I assume he has only tested so many blu-rays.


Assuming that DVDFab Passkey Lite is sufficient, that's still ~$50 for a blu-ray drive + $90 for TMT5 (PowerDVD or WinDVD may be cheaper). If you end up needing AnyDVD HD or the paid version of DVDFab Passkey, that raising the price significantly. A good standalone blu-ray player can be had for less than $100.


Now if the OP definitely wants the added features of AnyDVD HD like removing trailers (which would again raise the price substantially), then by all means go for it. Assuming that isn't a priority, a dedicated blu-ray seems like a simpler and probably cheaper solution.
 
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