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I don't think we have much to worry about when it comes to material made for theatrical presentation. They're made to stand up to scrutiny even on mega-sized screens. What will probably look hokey are pre-HD era TV shows that only had the budget for NTSC-quality special effects and sets. The original Star Trek is a good example, which is probably why they are remastering and redoing much of the special effects for the new millenium.
 

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Emotep.


I will send Billy the nasty Balrog to fetch you.


Actually I think LotR will look great in HD because the production is top notch. They used minatures so much that everything should looks great even when cranking up the resolution.
 

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Well D* HD-lite version of LOTR on TNT looked great. It was 1.78:1 and only HD the first run. (Last few runs may have been upconverted fools screen).


So I'd imagine the full HD version will look amazing. Thay did a very good job with scaling CGI and models.. Very detailed and will look and work well in HD
 

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Actually the special effects for the original Star Trek were done on film just like any movie. Its ironic they didn't have to do any remastering at all for a HD version. They chose to do it mostly just to update the effects a la Star Wars.


And another irony is that the effects for The Next Generation actually were done on video so they would need to be redone.

I think I remember reading that although the FX in the original Star Trek were filmed in 35 millimeter, there were issues like thick matte lines around ships and less than theatrical quality matte paintings for backgrounds that became really obvious when shown on a big screen.


Here are a couple of examples of level of detail visible in the new versions.

 

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Nice pics!!
 

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You will be able to see all the scale doubles and stunt doubles. Nothing worse than seeing Frodo standing in front of Gandalf and realizing it's a midget with a Elijah Wood mask.

That's why I only watch movies on my B&W 13 inch 1952 Zennith that's in it's original wooden cabinet
, cuz who could bear the thought of great movies actually being transparent to the masters?


I have a 20 inch Sanyo/Go Video combo I can sell you. That way when you are watching LOTR you won't have a clue what your looking at...is that a hobbit or Wee Man
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I can see the original poster's point. When I saw The Two Towers on hi-def cable (HBO or Showtime), I noticed a lot of things I didn't in the theater. Like an orc chopping at an Ent during the battle at Saruman's tower. The Ent moved away, but the orc kept chopping the empty space. Also in the same scene when they break the dam, it was pretty clear it was a miniature waterfall blown up.


I think HD really shows the imperfections of blue/green-screen special effects.
 

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You will be able to see all the scale doubles and stunt doubles. Nothing worse than seeing Frodo standing in front of Gandalf and realizing it's a midget with a Elijah Wood mask.

I just don't get these types of comments


Have you seen The Lord of the Rings in the theater*? I have. Did it ruin the movie? It didn't for me.

So where's the problem?


*I think we can agree that any half-decent theater with any half-decent copy of the film delivers (at least) the amount of detail you get from a 1080p version.
 

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I can see the original poster's point. When I saw The Two Towers on hi-def cable (HBO or Showtime), I noticed a lot of things I didn't in the theater. Like an orc chopping at an Ent during the battle at Saruman's tower.

And you think you didn't see that orc in the theater because the resolution wasn't high enough to resolve the orc?


Or was it because you initially watched the movie on a very big screen and couldn't possibly pay attention to everything that happened in this epic scene?


I think it's obvious that the latter is the case.
 

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I actually kind of like seeing these mistakes. In a way, it makes it seem more real to me. I find it interesting to see the way people try and fool our minds with special effects. It's one reason I'm not really a fan of CGI.


One of the first times I noticed something along these lines with HD was my D-Theater tape of X-Men. In one of the scenes, you can see the weaving behind Wolverine's false beard.
 

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The only thought I had, while watching the bonus discs, was that because of the heavy use of minatures, some of the "fakeness" of the minature shots will be more decetable. The damn breaking scene in The Two Towers is one where I definitely could tell it was minature.
 
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