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Would someone just tell me what setting to use!
I have a:
Onkyo TX-SR804 running 7.2 speaker set-up
Xbox 360 Elite (HDMI)
360 add-on HD DVD player
Dish VIP622 (HDMI)
Pure Audio
Dolby Digital
Dolby Digital EX
Dolby Pro-Logic II
Dolby Pro-Logic IIx
DTS
DTS Neo:6
DTS-ES
THX Surround EX
Which ONE!!!!!
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Please don't respond with use the search button.... The more I read the more I have no clue what is the best choice....
Onkyo TX-SR804 running 7.2 speaker set-up
Xbox 360 Elite (HDMI)
360 add-on HD DVD player
Dish VIP622 (HDMI)
Pure Audio
Dolby Digital
Dolby Digital EX
Dolby Pro-Logic II
Dolby Pro-Logic IIx
DTS
DTS Neo:6
DTS-ES
THX Surround EX
Which ONE!!!!!
Please don't respond with use the search button.... The more I read the more I have no clue what is the best choice....
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For now, I'm using the TX - SR604 and it automatically picks the audio source that is encoded.
The only one I choose is DTS...if it's available.
RWYoung
The only one I choose is DTS...if it's available.
RWYoung
First of all just telling you which is best is impossible since it depends on the source that you are currently using,
Either dvd player or dishnet or whatever , it's what sounds best to "YOUR EARS" and not what sounds best to us .
Either dvd player or dishnet or whatever , it's what sounds best to "YOUR EARS" and not what sounds best to us .
If the digital signal in in either DD or DTS, the receiver should default to which ever one it is receiving. If the signal is in stereo, whether analog or digital, then you can choose between the other options since they all do pretty much the same thing, which is converting a stereo signal into a surround signal, with each different option having small differences between them.
DIGITAL OPTIONS
Dolby Digital = 5.1
DTS = 5.1
Dolby Digital EX = 6.1 or 7.1
DTS-ES = 6.1 (discrete) or 7.1 (matrixed)
STEREO OPTIONS
Pro-Logic II = 5.1
Pro-Logic IIx = 6.1 or 7.1
DTS Neo 6 = 6.1 (Front L&R channels non-matrixed)
DIGITAL OPTIONS
Dolby Digital = 5.1
DTS = 5.1
Dolby Digital EX = 6.1 or 7.1
DTS-ES = 6.1 (discrete) or 7.1 (matrixed)
STEREO OPTIONS
Pro-Logic II = 5.1
Pro-Logic IIx = 6.1 or 7.1
DTS Neo 6 = 6.1 (Front L&R channels non-matrixed)
OK, Lets eliminate some then....
Is it true that all of these will not do 7.1 audio?
If yes which ones are they?
Is it true that all of these will not do 7.1 audio?
If yes which ones are they?
OK so looking at this info the short answer is
DD EX
DTS-ES
Pro-Logic IIx
Now what is Matrixed?
Quote:
Originally Posted by dicey /forum/post/0
If the digital signal in in either DD or DTS, the receiver should default to which ever one it is receiving. If the signal is in stereo, whether analog or digital, then you can choose between the other options since they all do pretty much the same thing, which is converting a stereo signal into a surround signal, with each different option having small differences between them.
DIGITAL OPTIONS
Dolby Digital = 5.1
DTS = 5.1
Dolby Digital EX = 6.1 or 7.1
DTS-ES = 6.1 (discrete) or 7.1 (matrixed)
STEREO OPTIONS
Pro-Logic II = 5.1
Pro-Logic IIx = 6.1 or 7.1
DTS Neo 6 = 6.1 (Front L&R channels non-matrixed)
OK so looking at this info the short answer is
DD EX
DTS-ES
Pro-Logic IIx
Now what is Matrixed?
DD-EX is encoded as 5.1 plus a matrixed Back Surround channel, DTS-ES is encoded as 6.1 and its Back Surround channel is its own individual channel, not a combination/difference of the two surround channels (matrixed) like DD-EX's. Pro-Logic IIx, DTS-Neo 6 and THX Surround EX takes either an analog or digital stereo signal or the digital 5.1 or 6.1 signal and converts them up to 7.1 channels.
I know that which is "best" is really a matter of personal preference; however, am I wrong or is it the general consensus that DTS NEO 6 kinda blows?
So looks like DTS-EX would be the logical selection then..... with a digital source Which everything should be since I'm using HDMI for all inputs....
What about this pure audio thing......
Quote:
Originally Posted by dicey /forum/post/0
DD-EX is encoded as 5.1 plus a matrixed Back Surround channel, DTS-ES is encoded as 6.1 and its Back Surround channel is its own individual channel, not a combination/difference of the two surround channels (matrixed) like DD-EX's. Pro-Logic IIx, DTS-Neo 6 and THX Surround EX takes either an analog or digital stereo signal or the digital 5.1 or 6.1 signal and converts them up to 7.1 channels.
So looks like DTS-EX would be the logical selection then..... with a digital source Which everything should be since I'm using HDMI for all inputs....
What about this pure audio thing......
As long as you don't have any video connected through your recvr, pure audio sounds good.
If you do have video connected through the recvr, Pure audio still sounds good, but your video is going to look very black... or blue... or snowy... Whatever your tv does when it isn't receiving a video signal.
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Originally Posted by Loserland /forum/post/0
So looks like DTS-EX would be the logical selection then..... with a digital source Which everything should be since I'm using HDMI for all inputs....
What about this pure audio thing......
As long as you don't have any video connected through your recvr, pure audio sounds good.
If you do have video connected through the recvr, Pure audio still sounds good, but your video is going to look very black... or blue... or snowy... Whatever your tv does when it isn't receiving a video signal.
Only one of the choices you listed will output 7.1 independent/distinct channels: Dolby Pro Logic IIx.
EX/ES decoding will output 6.1 channels (the mono surround-back channel is copied to both rear speakers, but that doesn't make it 7.1).
PLIIx can be applied to 2-channel and 5.1/6.1-channel sources, and is compatible with EX/ES encoded soundtracks.
Sanjay
Quote:
Originally Posted by Loserland /forum/post/0
Is it true that all of these will not do 7.1 audio?
Only one of the choices you listed will output 7.1 independent/distinct channels: Dolby Pro Logic IIx.
EX/ES decoding will output 6.1 channels (the mono surround-back channel is copied to both rear speakers, but that doesn't make it 7.1).
PLIIx can be applied to 2-channel and 5.1/6.1-channel sources, and is compatible with EX/ES encoded soundtracks.
Sanjay
This what I am reading on the Dolby site.... So the IIx is what I have been using and is what I should continue to use.
Answer: Dobly Pro-Logic IIx
Quote:
Originally Posted by sdurani /forum/post/0
Only one of the choices you listed will output 7.1 independent/distinct channels: Dolby Pro Logic IIx.
EX/ES decoding will output 6.1 channels (the mono surround-back channel is copied to both rear speakers, but that doesn't make it 7.1).
PLIIx can be applied to 2-channel and 5.1/6.1-channel sources, and is compatible with EX/ES encoded soundtracks.
Sanjay
This what I am reading on the Dolby site.... So the IIx is what I have been using and is what I should continue to use.
Answer: Dobly Pro-Logic IIx
Part of the fun of this hobby is trying the different soundfield decoding options and hearing the differences. For example, THX Ultra2, SurroundEX, etc. add very specific processing on top of standard dolby & dts decoding some of which should be explained in your manual and more can be found on THX website. Some like THX, some don't. Personally, I don't.
Unless the disc is encoded with dts-esmi or Dolby EX, I typically have Dolby PLIIx engaged all the time on top of standard Dolby Digital 5.1 & dts 5.1
Take some time (15-30 min) and decide for yourself. I'm sorry if you are somewhat frustrated by the choices, all of it can be intimidating. But taking some upfront time to read what your manual says about them, checking out the Dolby, dts & THX sites, and doing some listening may be in your best interest for learning more about these modes and getting the best experience in your room. I don't mean this in a condescending way since I don't know your knowledge level, just trying to be helpful.
Here's Dolby's & THX's which are good starting points.
http://www.dolby.com/consumer/techno..._overview.html
http://www.thx.com/technologies/index.html
ss9001
Unless the disc is encoded with dts-esmi or Dolby EX, I typically have Dolby PLIIx engaged all the time on top of standard Dolby Digital 5.1 & dts 5.1
Take some time (15-30 min) and decide for yourself. I'm sorry if you are somewhat frustrated by the choices, all of it can be intimidating. But taking some upfront time to read what your manual says about them, checking out the Dolby, dts & THX sites, and doing some listening may be in your best interest for learning more about these modes and getting the best experience in your room. I don't mean this in a condescending way since I don't know your knowledge level, just trying to be helpful.
Here's Dolby's & THX's which are good starting points.
http://www.dolby.com/consumer/techno..._overview.html
http://www.thx.com/technologies/index.html
ss9001
You got it! It's a good starting point std. Dolby Digital or dts. Congrats
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ss9001
Quote:
Originally Posted by Loserland /forum/post/0
This what I am reading on the Dolby site.... So the IIx is what I have been using and is what I should continue to use.
Answer: Dobly Pro-Logic IIx
You got it! It's a good starting point std. Dolby Digital or dts. Congrats
ss9001
Logic 7 is the "Best" but unfortunately your receiver doesn't have it
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For dolby digital or DTS it really doesn't matter. Any of them are good. Which ever one gives you 7 channels.
For matrixed, I'd probably go with Dolby's rip off of logic 7 -- Dolby Prologic IIx (yes I'll get flamed for this, but thats OK)
For dolby digital or DTS it really doesn't matter. Any of them are good. Which ever one gives you 7 channels.
For matrixed, I'd probably go with Dolby's rip off of logic 7 -- Dolby Prologic IIx (yes I'll get flamed for this, but thats OK)
L7 may be better at some things (soundstaging, envelopment) but PLIIx definitely does other things better (stability, directionality). Of course, "better" in this case comes down to personal preference.
Hardly a rip-off, since the processing was created for Dolby by Jim Fosgate (easily one of the best surround processing designers ever).
Sanjay
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Originally Posted by akm3 /forum/post/0
Logic 7 is the "Best"
L7 may be better at some things (soundstaging, envelopment) but PLIIx definitely does other things better (stability, directionality). Of course, "better" in this case comes down to personal preference.
Quote:
Dolby's rip off of logic 7 -- Dolby Prologic IIx
Hardly a rip-off, since the processing was created for Dolby by Jim Fosgate (easily one of the best surround processing designers ever).
Sanjay
I will only add that you should learn what your audio softwares do and how / when to use them, then experiement.
I use DTS where available and DPLII when not for multichannel and bypass for 2 ch stereo for music. Course I have a processor and a completely different setup than you ...
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