I have seen in a few threads comments about 4000 hrs coming out in a "future" firmware upgrade. Unless, the firmware does something with fan speed, startup cycle or "power reduction" / light output, I can't see what "magic" is performed other than math. Does this mean all X1 bulbs are actually 4000 hrs bulbs? When I had my machine repaired by Infocus (board replaced, and of course the "hours" setting went to 0), Infocus just kind of "shrugged" in an email and said keep an "eye" on the counter manually to "correct" for the "descrepancy"... almost like it was no big deal. Comments?
[X1] 4000 hrs ? how can fw increase hrs?
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The talk of 4000 hour lamps came from the introduction of the Infocus 4800 which is identical physically to the X1. There is no difference at all except the firmware doesn't shut the PJ off at 3,000.
This leads us to believe that the bulb is and has always been capable of at least 4000 hours even though Infocus told us 3000 hours.
Infocus to the best of my knowledge has not said they will officially up the lamp hours on the X1 but they have assured us that the 4800 and X1 are in fact the same physical PJ so 4000 hours life makes sense.
there are a number of threads that explain this much better than I can but searching for anything X1 is difficult at best.
This leads us to believe that the bulb is and has always been capable of at least 4000 hours even though Infocus told us 3000 hours.
Infocus to the best of my knowledge has not said they will officially up the lamp hours on the X1 but they have assured us that the 4800 and X1 are in fact the same physical PJ so 4000 hours life makes sense.
there are a number of threads that explain this much better than I can but searching for anything X1 is difficult at best.
When the lamp life difference was brought up, Bob Williams of Infocus suggested that any major improvements in the 4800 firmware would probably also end up on the X1. It hasn't happened yet, but there's only been one firmware revision since then.
I doubt Infocus will ever actually say what was changed to increase lamp life. I agree that the simplest explaination is that they just underestimated the number of hours in the first place and in time found out that the lamps were lasting longer than 3000 hours.
I doubt Infocus will ever actually say what was changed to increase lamp life. I agree that the simplest explaination is that they just underestimated the number of hours in the first place and in time found out that the lamps were lasting longer than 3000 hours.
Official? They ship with a lamp rated at 4000 hours or is there something different in those X1 under that serial number?
If it's just the lamp, how can the firmware tell the difference so it shuts off after the appropriate number of hours?
Official where, though?
If it's just the lamp, how can the firmware tell the difference so it shuts off after the appropriate number of hours?
Official where, though?
Specs on infocus site still list 3000 hours
http://www.infocus.com/products/prod...=1&prod=x1&c=4
http://www.infocus.com/products/prod...=1&prod=x1&c=4
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...light=4800+1.3
the 1.3 version was removed from the infocus site.
the 1.3 version was removed from the infocus site.
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I just talked to my Infocus dealer and he told me that a memo came around and all the newer (after a certain serial number) will be rated for 4000 hours. I asked him if it was firmware and he told me that it was hardware related but not sure if he knew what he was talking about.
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If it is a "hareware" thing as in "units after this production", I wonder where this leaves me with a "board replacement"... does this mean when you have service and get a "new board", is your unit now "upgraded" to the "4000 hours target" if and when it comes out?
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----- Original Message -----
From: InFocus Technical Support
To: 'technut'
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 12:30 PM
Subject: RE: X1 lamp life
Hey Mike,
I am working on getting you some answers. I can confirm that there has been a change in the spec from 3000 hours to 4000 hours for new machines going forward. What I can not confirm, and I have been waiting for a statement from engineering, is if or how this change can be implemented for existing product. Please let everyone out on the forums know that answers are forthcoming, I just don’t have them right now. To set your expectation on a response from me, it will likely be early next week before I have any concrete answers but I promise I will get back to you as soon as humanly possible, in fact, you will be the first to know. In the meantime, relax, enjoy a movie
InFocus Technical Support
InFocus Corporation
www.infocus.com/service
-----Original Message-----
From: technut [mailto:technut @ shaw.ca]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 12:06 PM
To: InFocus Technical Support
Subject: X1 lamp life
I wonder if you could clear up some confusion about the lamp life of the X1 projector. I have seen recent statements that
"I just talked to my Infocus dealer and he told me that a memo came around and all the newer (after a certain serial number) will be rated for 4000 hours."
"it is official all X1 now shipping are the 4000 hr lamp. They started with serial #AHH33200001"
I am looking for a definitive answer to dispel any rumours. Is this true, and if so, what change was made to extend the lamp life? Can it be retro-fitted to existing X1's? Is it just a firmware update to change the lamp counter limit or is there actually a change in hardware?
Thanks for your time to clarify this, and I will share your answer with others who are asking the same questions I am.
Mike / technut
The (unofficial) InFocus X1 Projector FAQ
From: InFocus Technical Support
To: 'technut'
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 12:30 PM
Subject: RE: X1 lamp life
Hey Mike,
I am working on getting you some answers. I can confirm that there has been a change in the spec from 3000 hours to 4000 hours for new machines going forward. What I can not confirm, and I have been waiting for a statement from engineering, is if or how this change can be implemented for existing product. Please let everyone out on the forums know that answers are forthcoming, I just don’t have them right now. To set your expectation on a response from me, it will likely be early next week before I have any concrete answers but I promise I will get back to you as soon as humanly possible, in fact, you will be the first to know. In the meantime, relax, enjoy a movie
InFocus Technical Support
InFocus Corporation
www.infocus.com/service
-----Original Message-----
From: technut [mailto:technut @ shaw.ca]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 12:06 PM
To: InFocus Technical Support
Subject: X1 lamp life
I wonder if you could clear up some confusion about the lamp life of the X1 projector. I have seen recent statements that
"I just talked to my Infocus dealer and he told me that a memo came around and all the newer (after a certain serial number) will be rated for 4000 hours."
"it is official all X1 now shipping are the 4000 hr lamp. They started with serial #AHH33200001"
I am looking for a definitive answer to dispel any rumours. Is this true, and if so, what change was made to extend the lamp life? Can it be retro-fitted to existing X1's? Is it just a firmware update to change the lamp counter limit or is there actually a change in hardware?
Thanks for your time to clarify this, and I will share your answer with others who are asking the same questions I am.
Mike / technut
The (unofficial) InFocus X1 Projector FAQ
If you go to this link it does say 4,000 hours..
http://store.infocus.com/escalate/st...ctors-Business
http://store.infocus.com/escalate/st...ctors-Business
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Congratulations to all of us, we now own X1's with a 4000 hour lamp life!
Just upgrade your firmware to version 4.1 to extend the lamp hour counter from 3000 to 4000 hours.
----- Original Message -----
From: InFocus Technical Support
To: 'technut'
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 2:35 PM
Subject: RE: X1 lamp life
Mike,
Thank you for your inquiry on the X1 Lamp Hours. I’m excited to say, it is true. The spec has recently been changed from 3,000 to 4,000 hours.
This upgrade is effective for all X1 projectors with software version 4.1 or higher.
This change is based on lamp life output data collected from thorough testing which show higher quality yeilds in manufacturing than previously expected.
To further reduce the cost of ownership and increase the value of the product, we have incorporated the lamp hours change in the latest revision of the software.
The new software release includes a revised lamp counter that allows 4,000 hours on a lamp. Nothing else in the product itself has changed.
Thank you for choosing InFocus, we truly do appreciate your business.
InFocus Technical Support
InFocus Corporation
www.infocus.com/service
Just upgrade your firmware to version 4.1 to extend the lamp hour counter from 3000 to 4000 hours.
----- Original Message -----
From: InFocus Technical Support
To: 'technut'
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 2:35 PM
Subject: RE: X1 lamp life
Mike,
Thank you for your inquiry on the X1 Lamp Hours. I’m excited to say, it is true. The spec has recently been changed from 3,000 to 4,000 hours.
This upgrade is effective for all X1 projectors with software version 4.1 or higher.
This change is based on lamp life output data collected from thorough testing which show higher quality yeilds in manufacturing than previously expected.
To further reduce the cost of ownership and increase the value of the product, we have incorporated the lamp hours change in the latest revision of the software.
The new software release includes a revised lamp counter that allows 4,000 hours on a lamp. Nothing else in the product itself has changed.
Thank you for choosing InFocus, we truly do appreciate your business.
InFocus Technical Support
InFocus Corporation
www.infocus.com/service
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I'm not sure I know who you are referring to, but in my experience a firmware upgrade does not reset the lamp hours, so the counter should just continue on from where you left off prior to the firmware upgrade.
If you do happen to reset the lamp counter early, I don't know of any way to bump it back up to what it should be. I guess you'd just have to do the math yourself to add on the extra hours that you actually have on the bulb.
p.s. This would probably be a good place to mention that a firmware upgrade DOES erase your user settings and preferences and resets all of them to the factory defaults. So make a note of any custom settings you have made first so that you can set them again after the upgrade.
| Originally posted by Vantorax How cool!!! Thanks a lot for finding out for us!!I wonder how that's gonna translate for the one who did the upgrade with 1000 hours on the lamp... |
If you do happen to reset the lamp counter early, I don't know of any way to bump it back up to what it should be. I guess you'd just have to do the math yourself to add on the extra hours that you actually have on the bulb.
p.s. This would probably be a good place to mention that a firmware upgrade DOES erase your user settings and preferences and resets all of them to the factory defaults. So make a note of any custom settings you have made first so that you can set them again after the upgrade.
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