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X3700h as a streamer

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Hi all,
Newbie here asking for some advice.
Since my 3700 has bluetooth and streaming apps can I use my 3700 as a streamer into an Oppo 205 that I want to use for a preamp to take advantage of the dacs and avoid buying a Appletv or Bluesound right now.
If so how would I do this?
Thank you in advance for any and all help
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Hi all,
Newbie here asking for some advice.
Since my 3700 has bluetooth and streaming apps can I use my 3700 as a streamer into an Oppo 205 that I want to use for a preamp to take advantage of the dacs and avoid buying a Appletv or Bluesound right now.
If so how would I do this?
Thank you in advance for any and all help
Also I have external amps.
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No problem. How do I move it?
Sounds unnecessarily complicated and limiting.

The DAC on the 3700 is already one of the best on the market, and it’s shortcoming compared to the Oppo on the benchtests are very likely completely beyond the threshold of human hearing in every possible way. You’d lose all the extras features the x3700h brings to the table.

HEOS (I use that regularly from my phone)
11 speakers and Dolby Surround upmixing
Many more HDMI inputs including the single HDMI 2.1 input - to quickly name three things.





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Sounds unnecessarily complicated and limiting.

The DAC on the 3700 is already one of the best on the market.



Thanks. Wasn't aware of this. So for all intent and purpose a pioneer lx500 would be just as good since it is a universal player and a lot less money if I'm going to use the AVR?
If you are using bitstream from the oppo or from the pioneer it won’t matter anyway. The disk player is sending an undecoded 1:1 copy of the digital stream recorded on the disk, or downloaded from its internal streaming application to the AVR, and the AVR does the decoding and all audio processing. So you could have a $50 walmart disk player and it would sound the same on a bluray rom or streaming because the player isn’t deciding anything. It’s just passing on the digital “zip file”, if you will, for the AVR to unpackage. If you have more than 7 speakers you’d want bitstream anyway to take advantage of Dolby Atmos or DTS-X, and their respective upmixers. Do you even have analog sources? If not, then I think you are worried over nothing as it relates to sound quality.
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If you are using bitstream from the oppo or from the pioneer it won’t matter anyway. The disk player is sending an undecoded 1:1 copy of the digital stream recorded on the disk, or downloaded from its internal streaming application to the AVR, and the AVR does the decoding and all audio processing. So you could have a $50 walmart disk player and it would sound the same on a bluray rom or streaming because the player isn’t deciding anything. It’s just passing on the digital “zip file”, if you will, for the AVR to unpackage. If you have more than 7 speakers you’d want bitstream anyway to take advantage of Dolby Atmos or DTS-X, and their respective upmixers. Do you even have analog sources? If not, then I think you are worried over nothing as it relates to sound quality.
Hi all,
Newbie here asking for some advice.
Since my 3700 has bluetooth and streaming apps can I use my 3700 as a streamer into an Oppo 205 that I want to use for a preamp to take advantage of the dacs and avoid buying a Appletv or Bluesound right now.
If so how would I do this?
Thank you in advance for any and all help
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Sounds unnecessarily complicated and limiting.

The DAC on the 3700 is already one of the best on the market, and it’s shortcoming compared to the Oppo on the benchtests are very likely completely beyond the threshold of human hearing in every possible way. You’d lose all the extras features the x3700h brings to the table.
Even though it uses the same chip AKM as the RME ADI-2, i have found the 3700H very thin and lack of intimate. I wonder what your setting is? I don't listen music in surround mode.
Even though it uses the same chip AKM as the RME ADI-2, i have found the 3700H very thin and lack of intimate. I wonder what your setting is? I don't listen music in surround mode.
I’m quite convinced that competent AVRs and or amplifiers sound the same in a level matched, no EQ, no DSPs playback within the capability of the amplifier and when proper impedance loads are matched to the amp’s design.

Period.

I’ve participated in three AVR/amplifier blind tests - In our last one, no one in attendance could tell the difference in any of the entries in a double blind test between the best amplifier ASR has tested (The Benchmark AHB2), and a cheap Behringer a800 or Crown 1502. Here’s the link: Post 8989

My observation is, while these amps may measure differently on $20K test equipment, the differences recorded are beyond the capability of our human ears to distinguish.

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What doesn’t sound the same is how the processor's bass integration occurs, SPL trims are set, EQ differences applied, DSP modes engaged, crossovers used etc. I’d look into these preferences to ferret out “thin”. Maybe you'd like applying manual EQ. Maybe you'd like to set your speakers to also receive bass below the crossover point, maybe you'd like to simply up the subwoofer trim.
My x6700h doesn’t sound thin. I prefer bumping the bass by at least 9 dB over what audyssey dials in. Sometimes as much as 12-15dB depending on the source content.

I turn off Audyssey’s equalization above 180Hz in the Audyssey app to be one octave higher than my manually selected 90Hz crossover point from mainspeaker to sub and to be generally closer to the Schroeder frequency in my room, and I like Dolby Surround for music as a subjective preference. Thin is not my experience.
My system is in my forum signature.

I have not heard or experimented with the RME ADI-2. I haven't even had the chance to blind test DACs, but in sighted tests 8-10 years ago I couldn't tell any difference if the DAC didn't introduce noise, and my hearing has only gotten worse since I'm now in my early 40's. A DAC shouldn't make any difference if it's working correctly IMO. Once it gets beyond a certain threshold, and that bar is pretty low, I don't think our human ears pick up the differences. I do think our human minds can make a unscalable mountain out of placebo. I've been in that place many times, until a blind test revealed my bias.
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OK, so you use/purchased the Audyssey app

I think part of my issue is that I'm a bit lazy and just want plug and play. I listen Pure Direct and not using EQ from Denon. I played with EQ in Stereo mode and it sounds worse.

I wish you're in Houston...I could definitely hear the difference. My ears are actually older than yours ;-) Also, I don't blindly/solely believe in benchmark, especially from ASR. My ears tell me everything.
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