EU members might able to chime in with this, I have been wanting to demo these speakers. They are using expensive drivers.
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XTZ Speakers - Another high quality internet direct speaker company?
Has anyone here had much experience with XTZ speakers? They are an internet direct speaker manufacturer based on Sweden and are supposed to be pretty popular oversees, although I can barely find any info on them on AVS. They are supposed to use SEAS and other high quality drivers but are manufactured in China. They have some pretty good reviews and also have a partnership with DIRAC. Their 99.25 and new 100.33 speakers look to be a great value and look killer. I'm curious how well they compare to manufacturers like Ascend.
http://www.xtzsound.com
http://www.xtzsound.com
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Well based on the number of responses I guess these speakers really aren't too well known- hopefully some ambitious member will order a pair for a demo
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Their new cinema line looks amazing: http://www.xtzsound.eu/cinema-series#arrow
For those interested in reading some reviews here are a couple:
http://www.hometheaterforum.com/topic/329020-xtz-9926-mkii-reference-bookshelf-review/#arrow
http://www.avforums.com/threads/xtz-99-36-a-review-uk-first.854923/
For those interested in reading some reviews here are a couple:
http://www.hometheaterforum.com/topic/329020-xtz-9926-mkii-reference-bookshelf-review/#arrow
http://www.avforums.com/threads/xtz-99-36-a-review-uk-first.854923/
There's a UK website with a very similar name to this one - AVForums.com, so that's the place to look for info in English about UK or EU stuff.
A number of results show up in a Google search
A number of results show up in a Google search
Yup, me. Lots of experience actually...
It started with being the first person to ever get anything from their Chicago distribution center about 2 years ago (so new was the US venture that the person I was dealing with turned out to be the president of the company). That was a W16.10 subwoofer, which was one of my earliest reviews. After seeing the quality these guys have I actually bought a W12.16 subwoofer for myself and used that for the better part of a year (since sold). This past Christmas they were having a 20% off sale so I picked up some 93.21 speakers, which I'm listening to as I type this. And just yesterday I received a W12.18 subwoofer and 95.24 speakers for an upcoming review.
Everything I've seen and heard from XTZ thus far has been designed and built to very exacting standards, with a lot of attention to detail. Sadly their website stinks, giving most a bad impression. I've personally tried very hard to convince XTZ that the website needs a lot of refinement for them to be taken seriously, but it hasn't resulted in much in the way of changes I'm afraid. It's a shame too because I imagine others would be as happy with their products as I have been. The few people I've convinced to give them a try have all been very pleased, and to this day still own what they purchased.
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Originally Posted by avfanatic1 /t/1519307/xtz-speakers-another-high-quality-internet-direct-speaker-company#post_24395380
Has anyone here had much experience with XTZ speakers?
Yup, me. Lots of experience actually...
It started with being the first person to ever get anything from their Chicago distribution center about 2 years ago (so new was the US venture that the person I was dealing with turned out to be the president of the company). That was a W16.10 subwoofer, which was one of my earliest reviews. After seeing the quality these guys have I actually bought a W12.16 subwoofer for myself and used that for the better part of a year (since sold). This past Christmas they were having a 20% off sale so I picked up some 93.21 speakers, which I'm listening to as I type this. And just yesterday I received a W12.18 subwoofer and 95.24 speakers for an upcoming review.
Everything I've seen and heard from XTZ thus far has been designed and built to very exacting standards, with a lot of attention to detail. Sadly their website stinks, giving most a bad impression. I've personally tried very hard to convince XTZ that the website needs a lot of refinement for them to be taken seriously, but it hasn't resulted in much in the way of changes I'm afraid. It's a shame too because I imagine others would be as happy with their products as I have been. The few people I've convinced to give them a try have all been very pleased, and to this day still own what they purchased.
Where can we find pricing for these speakers?
Where can we find pricing for these speakers?
US prices here: XTZ Shop - The US
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Originally Posted by ep120794 /t/1519307/xtz-speakers-another-high-quality-internet-direct-speaker-company#post_24399950
Where can we find pricing for these speakers?
US prices here: XTZ Shop - The US
They don't list anything about who the maker of their ribbon tweeter is, and the individual models as number is kind of dumb imo, it makes me think of radio stations. The main photo of the 99.36 speaker is the back, they should fix that. But the speakers do sound interesting but I personally would stick with well known ID brands until these get some good review and many of them.
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Originally Posted by JimWilson /t/1519307/xtz-speakers-another-high-quality-internet-direct-speaker-company#post_24398864
Yup, me. Lots of experience actually...
It started with being the first person to ever get anything from their Chicago distribution center about 2 years ago (so new was the US venture that the person I was dealing with turned out to be the president of the company). That was a W16.10 subwoofer, which was one of my earliest reviews. After seeing the quality these guys have I actually bought a W12.16 subwoofer for myself and used that for the better part of a year (since sold). This past Christmas they were having a 20% off sale so I picked up some 93.21 speakers, which I'm listening to as I type this. And just yesterday I received a W12.18 subwoofer and 95.24 speakers for an upcoming review.
Everything I've seen and heard from XTZ thus far has been designed and built to very exacting standards, with a lot of attention to detail. Sadly their website stinks, giving most a bad impression. I've personally tried very hard to convince XTZ that the website needs a lot of refinement for them to be taken seriously, but it hasn't resulted in much in the way of changes I'm afraid. It's a shame too because I imagine others would be as happy with their products as I have been. The few people I've convinced to give them a try have all been very pleased, and to this day still own what they purchased.
They don't list anything about who the maker of their ribbon tweeter is, and the individual models as number is kind of dumb imo, it makes me think of radio stations. The main photo of the 99.36 speaker is the back, they should fix that. But the speakers do sound interesting but I personally would stick with well known ID brands until these get some good review and many of them.
Their ribbon looks like a Fountek design.... but I didn't see that stated anywhere.
I wonder how good these speakers sound, but I would still go with the phils or sierra 2.
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Originally Posted by alphaiii /t/1519307/xtz-speakers-another-high-quality-internet-direct-speaker-company#post_24400924
Their ribbon looks like a Fountek design.... but I didn't see that stated anywhere.
I wonder how good these speakers sound, but I would still go with the phils or sierra 2.
Neither do 95% of the other companies making speakers, so I don't see where that should be considered an issue. Quite the contrary actually; perhaps XTZ should be commended for listing any of the manufacturers they use.
I'm not sure what their naming convention has to do with anything. They're a European (Swedish) company, so it's not uncharacteristic to name things with numerical references. Look at most of the cars from the likes of BMW, Mercedes, Peugeot, Ferrari, et al. Those companies name their products using numbers, but you won't find too many who consider that to be dumb. It's simply how things are done in other parts of the world.
Yup, the website needs help - no question there - but the products are definitely worth considering. They do also have the standard in-home trial, so you can try anything before you buy it.
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Originally Posted by tdogroeder /t/1519307/xtz-speakers-another-high-quality-internet-direct-speaker-company#post_24400832
They don't list anything about who the maker of their ribbon tweeter is
Neither do 95% of the other companies making speakers, so I don't see where that should be considered an issue. Quite the contrary actually; perhaps XTZ should be commended for listing any of the manufacturers they use.
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Originally Posted by tdogroeder /t/1519307/xtz-speakers-another-high-quality-internet-direct-speaker-company#post_24400832
and the individual models as number is kind of dumb imo, it makes me think of radio stations.
I'm not sure what their naming convention has to do with anything. They're a European (Swedish) company, so it's not uncharacteristic to name things with numerical references. Look at most of the cars from the likes of BMW, Mercedes, Peugeot, Ferrari, et al. Those companies name their products using numbers, but you won't find too many who consider that to be dumb. It's simply how things are done in other parts of the world.
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Originally Posted by tdogroeder /t/1519307/xtz-speakers-another-high-quality-internet-direct-speaker-company#post_24400832
The main photo of the 99.36 speaker is the back, they should fix that. But the speakers do sound interesting but I personally would stick with well known ID brands until these get some good review and many of them.
Yup, the website needs help - no question there - but the products are definitely worth considering. They do also have the standard in-home trial, so you can try anything before you buy it.
Several internet direct companies do list there speaker manufacturers, but it's not a huge issue to me just more of a curiosity.
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Originally Posted by JimWilson /t/1519307/xtz-speakers-another-high-quality-internet-direct-speaker-company#post_24401273
Neither do 95% of the other companies making speakers, so I don't see where that should be considered an issue. Quite the contrary actually; perhaps XTZ should be commended for listing any of the manufacturers they use.
I'm not sure what their naming convention has to do with anything. They're a European (Swedish) company, so it's not uncharacteristic to name things with numerical references. Look at most of the cars from the likes of BMW, Mercedes, Peugeot, Ferrari, et al. Those companies name their products using numbers, but you won't find too many who consider that to be dumb. It's simply how things are done in other parts of the world.
Yup, the website needs help - no question there - but the products are definitely worth considering. They do also have the standard in-home trial, so you can try anything before you buy it.
Several internet direct companies do list there speaker manufacturers, but it's not a huge issue to me just more of a curiosity.
I noticed their new Cinema series and it looks really promising, A 1x12 inch and 3x12 inch subwoofer, a front/center MTM speaker with a 4 tweeter array, and a surround speaker with di-pole or triple di-pole modes using wide range speakers to the side. It would be really cool to have a pair of those massive sub towers in your living room, and the sound, at least according to their own texts, must be seriously good and loud.
Link
Link
I agree love to know the pricing of them.I noticed their new Cinema series and it looks really promising, A 1x12 inch and 3x12 inch subwoofer, a front/center MTM speaker with a 4 tweeter array, and a surround speaker with di-pole or triple di-pole modes using wide range speakers to the side. It would be really cool to have a pair of those massive sub towers in your living room, and the sound, at least according to their own texts, must be seriously good and loud.
Link
I found a Swedish article on the series, and it states:
SUB 3×12 18.000 SEK/unit = 2660 USD/unit
SUB 1×12 7.000 SEK/unit = 1030 USD/unit
M6 6.800 SEK/unit = 1000 USD/unit
S5 9.500 SEK/pair = 1400 USD/pair
The article is from February, so it might have changed slightly, but I guess we'll have to wait until they officially launch on the shop site.
SUB 3×12 18.000 SEK/unit = 2660 USD/unit
SUB 1×12 7.000 SEK/unit = 1030 USD/unit
M6 6.800 SEK/unit = 1000 USD/unit
S5 9.500 SEK/pair = 1400 USD/pair
The article is from February, so it might have changed slightly, but I guess we'll have to wait until they officially launch on the shop site.
I've made preliminary arrangements to get a review system comprised of the Cinema Series - in the October time frame - so hopefully I'll get to hear them myself. M&K and Kreisel are the only other companies I know of that make something similar, so the design is rather unique.
The 99.36 looks very intriguing for the price. Would you consider it worth the risk vs something as the Sierra Tower w/ RAAL?
The 99.36 looks very intriguing for the price. Would you consider it worth the risk vs something as the Sierra Tower w/ RAAL?
I just reviewed some XTZ speakers with a ribbon tweeter, but they were the 95 Series and not the 99's. Still, the article might contain some relevant information because it's probably the same tweeter. I can't compare them to the Sierra's though - I've never heard those myself.
I was passing through the little town where XTZ is based, and decided to stop by for a listen. I tried the following speakers: Divine 100.49 and 33, 99.36 and 25 MKII Piano, the 95-series surround package, and the new Cinema M6 with two 99W 12.16 subs.
Divine
The 100.49, the full-range model, is huge, and sounded spectacular, they seem very linear, and true to the music. They have two 10" alu woofers from Seas so they can reach deep, and the ceramic, german made mid and tweeter elements sound very pure and detailed. The 100.33 is in a d'Appolito / MTM configuration with two mid/woofer elements, and work both as a center and front speaker. They sound a bit more lively in the bass than their big brother, and I really like their presentation. If I had the money I think I would go for the 33, possibly with a sub, though they almost don't need it, though, if I had the room, 49's all the way.
99 Series
The 99 series sound pretty damn great as well, as they have ribbon tweeters they are a bit more sensitive to height, the tweeter has to be ear height for optimal sound. They are great musical speakers, though not quite as linear, quite as high resolution as the Divines, they are truly great for the price. The sound of the stand mount 99.25 and the floor standing 99.36 are very similar, though of course the floor standing model works well without a sub. The 99.25 can apparently also be used as a center by turning the tweeter 90 degrees and placing it on the side.
95 Series
The 95 Series was set up in a home theater set-up with two 95.44 as fronts, 95.33 as center, and two 95.24 as surrounds and their 8" sub. X-men Origins: Wolverine was playing and I jumped through a few scenes of that, and I was surprised at how good it sounded, considering the price. The speakers in this series are all quite large, larger than corresponding speakers in the 99 series, and can handle a pretty high sound level. Compared to the 99 series there was a drop in sound quality, but not by as much as I would have thought, and the explosions and music and fighting of the movie sounded realistic and intense. I would be very happy with this in a home theater 5/7.1 setup, but for music I would pick 2 99.36 instead.
Cinema M6
The Cinema M6 was set up for music listening in a 2.2 setup. They sounded great, very clear and detailed, and could play loudly without loosing that clarity. They separated instruments well and made the music come alive. With some recordings they were very unforgiving, and revealed how badly the songs were mixed. They look cool, and the shape of the cabinet seems to have a few advantages; they still play towards the center of the room when wall mounted, they work as a center both below and above the screen, and there are less standing waves inside the cabinet.
Naming
I also asked about the numbers in the names of the various models and what they signified. The series are after how good they are, so 100 is better than 99 is better than 95 and so on. The first number of the model name is number of drivers, so 36 has 3 drivers, 44 has 4. The second number is a bit more arbitrary, but usually a 3 means a center, and then its size. in the Cinema series it's a bit more straight forward, M for monitor, 6 for number of elements, S for surround, 5 elements.
Divine
The 100.49, the full-range model, is huge, and sounded spectacular, they seem very linear, and true to the music. They have two 10" alu woofers from Seas so they can reach deep, and the ceramic, german made mid and tweeter elements sound very pure and detailed. The 100.33 is in a d'Appolito / MTM configuration with two mid/woofer elements, and work both as a center and front speaker. They sound a bit more lively in the bass than their big brother, and I really like their presentation. If I had the money I think I would go for the 33, possibly with a sub, though they almost don't need it, though, if I had the room, 49's all the way.
99 Series
The 99 series sound pretty damn great as well, as they have ribbon tweeters they are a bit more sensitive to height, the tweeter has to be ear height for optimal sound. They are great musical speakers, though not quite as linear, quite as high resolution as the Divines, they are truly great for the price. The sound of the stand mount 99.25 and the floor standing 99.36 are very similar, though of course the floor standing model works well without a sub. The 99.25 can apparently also be used as a center by turning the tweeter 90 degrees and placing it on the side.
95 Series
The 95 Series was set up in a home theater set-up with two 95.44 as fronts, 95.33 as center, and two 95.24 as surrounds and their 8" sub. X-men Origins: Wolverine was playing and I jumped through a few scenes of that, and I was surprised at how good it sounded, considering the price. The speakers in this series are all quite large, larger than corresponding speakers in the 99 series, and can handle a pretty high sound level. Compared to the 99 series there was a drop in sound quality, but not by as much as I would have thought, and the explosions and music and fighting of the movie sounded realistic and intense. I would be very happy with this in a home theater 5/7.1 setup, but for music I would pick 2 99.36 instead.
Cinema M6
The Cinema M6 was set up for music listening in a 2.2 setup. They sounded great, very clear and detailed, and could play loudly without loosing that clarity. They separated instruments well and made the music come alive. With some recordings they were very unforgiving, and revealed how badly the songs were mixed. They look cool, and the shape of the cabinet seems to have a few advantages; they still play towards the center of the room when wall mounted, they work as a center both below and above the screen, and there are less standing waves inside the cabinet.
Naming
I also asked about the numbers in the names of the various models and what they signified. The series are after how good they are, so 100 is better than 99 is better than 95 and so on. The first number of the model name is number of drivers, so 36 has 3 drivers, 44 has 4. The second number is a bit more arbitrary, but usually a 3 means a center, and then its size. in the Cinema series it's a bit more straight forward, M for monitor, 6 for number of elements, S for surround, 5 elements.
Thanks for posting this. There are (unfortunately) too few XTZ owners in NA, so information like this is pretty rare.I was passing through the little town where XTZ is based, and decided to stop by for a listen. I tried the following speakers: Divine 100.49 and 33, 99.36 and 25 MKII Piano, the 95-series surround package, and the new Cinema M6 with two 99W 12.16 subs.
I've often wondered how they went about naming their speakers. It's a bit of a mouthful, but to an extent it makes sense to me now.Naming
I also asked about the numbers in the names of the various models and what they signified. The series are after how good they are, so 100 is better than 99 is better than 95 and so on. The first number of the model name is number of drivers, so 36 has 3 drivers, 44 has 4. The second number is a bit more arbitrary, but usually a 3 means a center, and then its size. in the Cinema series it's a bit more straight forward, M for monitor, 6 for number of elements, S for surround, 5 elements.
If you happen to stop by again tell Olle I had 'hi'.
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