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I've downloaded a couple of TV shows in Xvid format and I was wondering what you guys would recommend I use to burn said files on a DVD so I can watch them on my Home Theater.


Each file is about 350MB large and contains one 45min TV episode. Anyone have any experience with this? I want to keep the quality as high as possible but still fit 2 maybe 3 on one DVD.


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In this case you're right (I think... Tivo is setting up so you can share your recordings on the internet). Of course, it's still a legitimate question, since poeple also record shows themselves to Xvid, which is not illegal in the US despite what the MPAA would like you to think.


I was responding to the comment that he should just buy the DVDs, which in some cases would be impossible (and may never be possible for some shows, which makes a very sad catch 22).
 

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The MPAA has no control over television shows does it? I understand if it was movies on tv, but not programming actually made for tv.


A lot of people dont see it as any different, but if someone wants to go through the effort of recording programming coming into their house so they can have a copy of it to view whenever they want, thats still within everyone's rights. But to be able to download it from the internet, thats different, now its distribution, which is illegal. Its kinda like receiving stolen merchandise, and knowing that its stolen. Record it yourself off the legally received signal coming into your house, fine. But downloading it is not.
 

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I don't know. I was under the impression the MPAA also represented television, but I could be wrong (the largest movie studios and TV studios are many of the same companies, so they at least have common interests). I believe it's the MPAA that's trying to have Universal v. Sony overturned, though.


Like I said, I'm not sure how the Tivo deal is getting done. It may have to do with encryption or the limited useability of Tivo boxes. There's also a new filesharing program that limits the number of people you can share with that apparently doesn't run afoul of the public distribution laws for TV and music as well.
 

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imf4, thanks for pointing me to this great resource.


as far as this being illegal is concerned. I really don't see a difference whether I had recorded this myself and burned it on DVD or whether I downloaded the show off the internet and then burned it.


I just don't have the capabilities to record TV shows to my computer and hence find it attractive to be able to download shows in Xvid that I had missed. I don't see this any different than taping it on good old VHS by myself.


Also, it is WB and not cable. Not sure if that makes a difference.
 

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Record it yourself off the legally received signal coming into your house, fine. But downloading it is not.
First, the Supreme Court's betamax decision specifically distinguishes between "timeshifting" as a recording made for one future viewing followed by deletion, and "librarying" as the retaining of content for one's personal media library. It explicitly legalizes "timeshifting" while neither explicitly legalizing nor disallowing "librarying"--though the text of the decision makes very clear distinctions. So, it is an unsettled matter whether it is legal to keep a recording after viewing it once, although it is now so common that it's unlikely the Court would still even draw the distinction it did 20 years ago. It is however a common misconception that this is a completely settled issue--it has never explicitly been addressed by the Court.


Likewise, while it is explicitly illegal to *upload* copyrighted material, *downloading* it is another legally unclear area which has never been fully explored by the Court in the U.S. *All* of the 4,280+ copyright infringement lawsuits filed by the RIAA, for example, have been against uploaders. Not a single copyright infringement suit has been brought for merely downloading. Uploading is settled as clear distribution, with many legal precedents. Downloading is not explicitly illegal (yet), with no clear caselaw. It is legally undecided, and not yet clearly illicit or permitted by current copyright law and judicial interpretation. Again, it's a common misconception that this is explicitly settled, when it isn't. To quote a recent *New York Times* piece,

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the fine print of those lawsuits makes clear that fans are being sued not for downloading but for unauthorized distribution: leaving music in a shared folder for other peer-to-peer users to take.
At any rate, I do agree that if a TV show is available on DVD or another authorized medium that it should be purchased. TV on DVD still needs all the help it can get. I do not in any way support or condone any behavior which deprives media creators of the income needed to keep them creating. Some commercially failed shows will *never* see the light of day again, however, and I don't think it's morally grungy to download those, nor is it clearly and explicitly illegal. Preserving our cultural heritage is important.

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The MPAA has no control over television shows does it? I understand if it was movies on tv, but not programming actually made for tv.
They are major backers of the Broadcast Flag, TV content encryption, and many legislative attempts to make commercial-advance capabilities illegal. They have much control over television and want more.
 

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hm, this is weird. TMPGEnc 3.0 XPress will not recognize my Xvid .avi files. I'll have to look further into this. Any comments?
I don't know what to say. I haven't had any issues converting Xvid to Mpeg. I have done it a couple times to burn archived TV shows to DVD for friends. What error do you get?

Maybe try to contact pegasys support if you bought the product.


Also I am assuming you have the Xvid codec installed on your system?
 

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The error I get is something like this:


"TMPGEnc is unable to recognize this video file. Only audio is able to be imported."



As far as the Xvid codec is concerned. I am not quite sure. I can play Xvid files in most of my video players. Does that mean I have it installed? I did go to Xvid.org a while ago and only found the Xvid source code but no mention of a installable codec.
 

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What do you use to play the files? You may be able to see the graph it's using to find out what codec is playing your Xvid files. Often Divx can decode Xvid (depending on the options used). You can also use Gspot to find out the filter chain.


Your problem may be that the decoded data is delivered in a format unacceptable to TMPG. I believe Xvid can be delivered as YV12 or YUY2, and I wouldn't be surprised if TMPG would only accept YUY2 input. You can generally set this by going to your decoder properties page while the file is playing, or often the codec will install shortcuts to allow you to set these things anytime you want.


FYI, here's a good place to get Xvid binary installations:
http://www.koepi.org/xvid.shtml
 

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If they were smart they'd offer all their TV shows themselves for download, with all the commercials still intact. Then they could charge more for the additional viewership. It would dry up the "distro" scene more since it would take longer to get any shows from consumer bandwidth in comparison to what a company could afford. Finally, they could integrate it with Tivo and Motorola boxes so that you could just page back through your guide into the past to watch whatever you wanted. But there'd be less for laywers to do then.. :)
 

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Has anyone tried using dvdSanta for converting their DivX/XviD/QT/RA/WMV videos into DVD videos? I've read many good things about it, but I haven't gotten around to trying it yet. Just curious of its video output quality & length of time for conversion compared to other tools like TMPGEnc.


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