Well its down to one of these two receivers but I am not just sure yet where I should place my money. The Yamaha at retail is about $200 over the Pioneer so you would figure the Yamaha as a superior performing receiver. You might ask why I would compare one receiver with one much more expensive but here is the scoop. I am purchasing one of these receivers off Futureshop.ca because I have a promotional certificate worth $200 and both receivers are on the Futureshop site. The Pioneer receiver is listed on Futureshop at $384.99 and the Yamaha is on sale for $399.99. The discount for the sale on the Yamaha is $200 plus my $200 certificate brings the $600 receiver down to $200 (niiice!). When I apply the certificate to the Pioneer both receivers equal to about the same amount. Now what I want to know is which receiver is the better performer (sound quality)? From what I can tell I should jump on the Yamaha in a split second, however it is still possible that the Pioneer has better performance and that is what it comes down to. Which of these receivers has the better performance? The features on both fulfill my needs so I do not need to compare that aspect. The Pioneer has auto setup but I am going to manually set up anyways, no matter which receiver I get so that doesn't matter. I just want to know from a performance perspective which receiver gets more love. Anyone?