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Has anyone had the RX-Z11 (or Z9) and moved into the 3010? I am considering the following options:


1. Total change out - current z11 to 3010

2. Use 3010 as Pre-amp to Z11 for Amplification


It might just be me, but the new 3010 just looks like its a step down. Does anyone have thoughts on it relative to sound quaility?


thoughts apprecated.
 

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there is a member over on the Yamaha A1000/2000/3000 that has used the Z11 and other brands and models of the "higher end" that is currently using a A3000. You may want to go over there and ask him. He can probably answer your question. Good luck. It's not a 3010 but close enough to give you a better idea.
 

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Well the obvious difference is in weight, the Z11 weighs 73lbs, the A3010 weighs 40.1lbs, which is almost twice as heavy. The Z11 has much more capacitance, totaling 70,400uf, while the A3010 has 36,000uf.


They both have the DSD1796 DACs, although the Z11 uses it for all channels while I believe the A3010 uses them only for the fronts and PCM1791 for the rest.


I have a A3000 and a A2010, both run much cooler than the Z11. It doesn't take long before the big fans on the Z11 revs up. So I made a couple of low RPM 140mm fans for my unit to keep it quiet.


Pre-amp wise, from the Audioholics reviews it seems the Z11 has a cleaner pre-amp section, although both will drive any power amp into clipping (up to 3Vrms).


Power wise, the Z11 should be able to push close to 400W x 2 @ 1% THD, 4ohms, and the A3010, if it's anything like the A3000, I don't believe can approach that, from the reviews I've seen it's probably close to mid-high 200s.
 

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 http://www.hometheater.com/content/y...r-measurements


Two channels driving 8-ohm loads, reaches 0.1% distortion at 214.8 watts and 1% distortion at 243.6 watts.


Into 4 ohms, the amplifier reaches 0.1% distortion at 311.3 watts and 1% distortion at 387.4 watts.


With five channels driven continuously into 8-ohm loads, the AVR reaches 0.1% distortion at 153.2 watts and 1% distortion at 183.1 watts.


With seven channels driven continuously into 8-ohm loads, it reaches 0.1% distortion at 139.4 watts and 1% distortion at 160.4 watts.




The new Aventage series is a lot easier to use though, all the HDMI outs are labeled 1,2,3,4,5,6,7... instead of all those fixed names. Buttons are easier to press, and obviously if you have a comprehensive home entertainment center, 5 HDMI inputs on the Z11 is likely not enough. Cable, HTPC, PS3, Xbox 360, Blu Ray Player, Dig Cam, other consoles, etc...inputs run out quick.
 

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I'm In the same boat and would like to move from a Z11 to a new 11.2 AV amplifier that could manage HDMI 1.4 signal.


I'm using complete 11.2 AMP section of my Z11 (with four presence speakers) and using the 3010 is lacking of 2 AMP sections to compete with my Z11



Anyone have heard rumours about the flagship Yamaha Z11 amplifier true replacement in 2012 ?


Thanks


John
 
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