[AVchemE]

I had a Yamaha HTR-5990 and I was able to play SACDs through the HDMI cable with my Playstation 3. I upgraded to the RX-V1800 and now can't get SACD audio. I also can't get the upconverted frequencies to play 44.1/88.2/176.4.


I'm confused because the PS3 detects that all formats should be supported with my Amp and I even stripped it down to the basics 48kHz 2 & 5 channel output, and still nothing. I checked the signal info on my amp's menu and all the information was blank. does this indicate that it's not getting a signal or it doesn't recognize the signal? I got audio using the analog output so it seems that the PS3 is working in that respect, but maybe the digital info isn't being transmitted?

 

[psychdoctor]

Do you have the ps3 set to bitsream or pcm?

 

[AVchemE]

The bitstream/PCM option is only for DVD or BD playback. The CD playback only has the upconversion options 44.1/88.2/etc and the bitmapping option (which I tried all three settings). That being said, I did try both PCM and Bitstream options in the DVD/BD menu.


Is there something that I'm missing?

Thanks

 

[T7T]

I gather the PS3 doesn't give any error message here. Have you disabled the optical output?

 

[AVchemE]

Ya, I'm fairly literate on this, but there may be something obvious that I'm missing.


I only use HDMI to transfer video and audio to my receiver (no optical). There are no error messages and the PS3 plays the tracks like nothing is the matter. I conclude that the PS3 is playing normally because there are frequency responses in the visualization, but maybe the output is broken (except all other audio works).


Also, as I mentioned, the setero analog output works just fine for SACD and CD upconversion, but obviously doesn't solve the problem. very perplexing and annoying.

 

[indy911]



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Originally Posted by AVchemE /forum/post/12047375


Also, as I mentioned, the setero analog output works just fine for SACD and CD upconversion, but obviously doesn't solve the problem. very perplexing and annoying.

After I installed the latest firmware I had to go back to the basic audio settings to enable support for the higher audio frequencies. This is a different setting than the one where you select you actually *want* to use the higher frequencies.

 

[AVchemE]

Thanks Indy911, I did that too. I think my only option now is to test it with another amp to see if the problem is the PS3 or the Amp

 

[T7T]

One more thing: have you incidentally daisychained a TV/display to your receiver (and, indirectly, the PS3) via HDMI? If so, have you tried the same set-up with the screen disconnected?

 

[AVchemE]

I believe I know what you're talking about. Under HDMI audio on the Receiver menue I can either select "RX-V1800" or "other" meaning that audio will be sent out through the HDMI cable to the TV if "other" is selected.


I'll try your suggestion, but the audio works fine for all other formats coming from the PS3. I'm going to borrow a friend's PS3 and see if I can't determine if it's a product defect. I'll post my findings.


Thank you all!

 

[AVchemE]

I don't believe it; T7T, you were right. My PS3 connects to my receiver and the receiver to the TV with HDMI cables inbetween, and that was the problem.


I borrowed my friend's PS3 with the same result, no sound. I said, "I'll unplug the TV" so I left the SACD playing and turned off the TV, as soon as I did the sound came back on.


The question now is, how do I fix it so I can get both video and audio? I have a Samsung LN-T4665F LCD TV. Is a 1080p video signal and 176kHz Audio signal too much for HDMI 1.3? I don't think so since it handles Blu-ray movies with DTS-HD MA. Or is there a setting I missed? I turned the internal mute on the TV on so it shouldn't process video signals. Any help would be great.

 

[T7T]

Interesting. Well, what's probably basically happening is that the end of the chain (I believe this is called the 'sink' in HDMI jargon) i.e. the display in this case signals to the source device what its audio and video capabilities are, and these probably don't include multichannel PCM decoding.


What we want is for the screen to determine only the video format and for the AV receiver to determine the audio format. There may be a setting for this in the display and (more likely) the receiver may offer a setting for this but I'm not familiar with either type so you'll really need to look into the user manual.


Please do keep us posted.

 

[T7T]

Some more suggestions:

1) The receiver manual mentions some settings for 'manual setup' (page 97 and on). There may be something here.

2) One way to lose the audio connection between your display and your receiver may be to convert from HDMI to DVI. I wonder what will happen when you try this.

 

[Luis F]

Well the same thing is happening to me on a rx-v3800 and did the turning off the tv and it worked, I'll be hopping someone has the answer

 

[AVchemE]

Hey Luis. There is not an answer. I talked to Yamaha who said it was Samsung's fault who said it was Yamaha's fault. I got to the 3rd level support at Samsung.


Yamaha said it probably was an issue with their product. I have to send some information to Yamaha who will send it to their engineers in Japan. I'll keep you posted on the progress.


I expect to hear back from them in about a week. Feel free to contact me personally or post more questions on this thread.

 

[Luis F]

Thanks AVchemE

I'll be waiting and hopefuly they fix it some how, please let me know asap you get the info. Also I am having problems with the 1080p setting of the PS3>3800>40XBR4 the PS3 only accepts max 1080I thru the rxv3800. When I connect it direct to the tv then 1080p shows. Anythig similar?

 

[AVchemE]

Sorry, I can't help you there. I get 1080p to go through my RXV1800 from the ps3 and out to the TV. Did you try setting 1080p manually (I assume you did)? I actually upgraded from an Yamaha HTR-5990 because it didn't handle 1080p. I would definitely set the 1080p problem as the priority, my problem isn't that bad since I don't have to have the TV on to listen to SACDs or upconverted CD audio.

 

[Luis F]

yes i did try that, but nothing. Iam up from a rxv2600with no issues at all.

 

[Luis F]

AVchemE.

Try this, put the PS3 in 480p and will see that the SADC sound comes rigth up with the Tv on. Strange ha. Working on the 1080p problem i found this.

 

[usernameuser]

can you play SACD on the linux side of the PS3?

I wonder if you can rip the DSD audio track or enable the optical link to support SACD output using the linux os?

 

[T7T]



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Originally Posted by usernameuser /forum/post/12166262


can you play SACD on the linux side of the PS3?

I wonder if you can rip the DSD audio track

I seriously doubt that but it'll be interesting to look into it.

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or enable the optical link to support SACD output using the linux os?

Apparently you don't need to do complicated tricks for that but simply install firmware version v2.00!


See http://www.ps3sacd.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=25