Try connecting to Netflix through the tv app. Then you will get Dolby Vision for programs like Marco Polo. I have zero blur on any programs. My set was professionally calibrated though, not sure if that helps this issue.

 

I have issues with the motion handling of the B6 which goes beyond the inherent motion resolution.
There are cases when the picture jumps and there is tremendous judder which is jarring.

Something is not right here. 24P should be smooth but perhaps a bit blurred when compared to Plasma (which is my reference).

- Rich

 

Are you coming from a plasma TV? Unfortunately, motion blur is inherent to sample and hold displays. Have you tried adjusting the frame interpolation settings, "tru-motion" as LG calls it?

 

Tru motion does nothing in any of the options even custom in hdr in Netflix when I watched last man standing. The motion blur got better only when I turn off hdr on the Xbox one s and the tv picture mode changed.

This seems like a tv bug as it should not change to hdr for non hdr content and it should let you use any picture mode if you don't want hdr.

 

Hmmm, not quite sure what you guys are seeing, I have no issues with my b6 motion and I am used to my krp-500m which handles motion as well as about any set ever. However, I had full pro calibration, maybe you just need the settings fine tuned. The most I see is very slight blur in a very fast moving object like a thrown football. I have not seen the picture jumping or judder. Wish I could give better advice.

 

I have been checking out a 65B6P in a local electronics store, and the judder is absolutely horrid.

I jacked the trumotion up to max and left dejudder at 0, as I've seen suggested in many places. This only helped a bit (the TV was on stock settings when I first looked at it).

There's no way I could put up with that much judder. It's not blur. It's like seeing the image in strobe if there is a panning shot. It's really bad.

I see it side-by-side to a 65 inch Samsung KS9800 with the same signal input, and it's like night and day.

 

I had the same exact problem as you
Check out my reply below
Maybe it could help you

 

There's tons of dots flickering on any source more noticeable in dark and no setting makes this better. What gives?

 

Never mind. I am returning the tv.

 

It does not appear that the B6 processes film 23.976Hz natively.

At a 5X multiplier the panel would refresh at 118.88Hz.

Using Spears and Munsil Montage, I compared sending the B6 23.976Hz and 60Hz.
The latter using a 3/2 pattern. However, there was virtually no difference. If anything, send 60Hz as good or better than native film rate.

This further leaves me perplexed at the reviews indicating 10 out of 10 for film motion handling.

- Rich

 

I don't understand that either. It's got terrible motion issues.

 

Do the E and G models have this problem as well? Don't they all have the same video processing?

 

Different processors.

 

Different processors, but there's no real evidence that impacts processing. The different processors are for audio differences and the presence or absence of 3D.

It's already been confirmed that the slight stutter that some are seeing on the B while watching HDR, UHD BluRays, is software based and not anything to do with the processor. LG already has a fix for this that's been field tested and will be released before too long. I've lost track of how many people were convinced the stutter was due to 'weak' processors.

These rumors need to be shot down almost every other day.

 

The best way to end the rumor is to fix the problem.

This is not a "slight" problem, it is one of those things that once you see it, it is incredibly annoying.
I won't be watching UHD until the fix is provided.

The good news is a fix is on the way and that LG recognized that this is a serious flaw.

- Rich

 

I don't know how tvs today are so bad with motion. I would think this wouldn't be an issue anymore. Motion blur or ghosting whatever that is, or noise in people's faces when they move, or noise or whatever it is in dark areas etc. I would think they would have figured all of this out by now.

What's it going to take to be like Plasma? My Plasma has none of these issues when watching directv. Is that because it's only a 1080p and doesn't have to upscale to fill all the extra pixels in a 4K screen? So because of having to do that makes you see more problems? But then I would think if upscaling is a cause that upscaling would be good enough to not have issues.

I want to get a new tv but nothing comes close with directv to my plasma.

 

^ You've already tried multiple TVs of various techs and haven't been happy with any. Stick with your plasma until it breaks. Easy business. There's no point belaboring an issue that most of us don't even see.

 

Yes there is but I'm not going to argue with you.

 

I have the exact TV; I use ISF 'Bright Room' mostly, and I have none of the motion issues you describe. DIRECTV is my supplier, and I am extremely happy with the quality of the signal.

Have you switched to 'User' mode and tried 2/10 for the motion settings?

Bish

 

Like i wrote, i tried everything i could and it's still very blury in fast action, So far,the best i could find is De-Judd +7 and De-Blur +3
I watched the Austin F1 GP qualifications yesterday and when the camera is panning at the same time a car is moving, it becomes very juddery if i can say it like that. Very anoying.
Same thing happens with the red and white vibrators you see on the track's corners.
I have the newest Samsung 4k PVR with hi speed hdmi and even in 4K content, blur and juder is still very present.
I called LG customer service about this and dispite the very understanding lady i talked to, she wasn't able to tell me if a fix was really on the way for this issue.
I suggested her to point out this issue to the LG techs and told her about all the forums talking about this issue and she assured me that my voice would be heard.
Now if everyone that has the same problem can take the time to call the 1-888 number that shows in the TV menue and point out this issue, i'm sure it would speed things up to get some kind of firmware update so we can all enjoy this jem to the it's full potential.

 

Hi guys, so i just got the LG oled65b6p curved and getting the same issue but it is not as bad as the previous posts here where it is really bad, but it is noticeable (motion fludder, motion blurr, digital blurr, whatever you call it

Now, i am streaming my movie from my server to my LG via the website tab the LG has, could that be an issue or is it the the way it is ?

I would hate it to be the issue with this technology.

 

No Dolby Vision settings in "Picture Options".

Thanks for all the info! Although I have the LG 65" B6, I assume that all the calibrations in the settings are the same. I am unable to get Dolby Vision in "Picture Options". I have tried to understand how this could be? It shows it's availability in this video, as well as LG's website for this model. I have Verizon 50/50 plan, and I have tested the bandwidth for accuracy. I have a Wi-Fi connection with a router that is less than 10 feet away. I get all the other picture options, and configurable settings, but no Dolby Vision. I have tried to watch the second season of Bosch on Amazon Prime, that is suppose to be filmed in Dolby Vision, but to no avail! It automatically switches Picture Mode to HDR10. Can it be my HDMI cable or do I have to use an Ethernet cable possibly? Anyone that can give me a better answer than some guy on the phone from India that represents Amazon's tech department, I would certainly appreciate! lol Thanks in advance! Mark

 

Found this forum while googling on this matter. I'm a victim of buying the B6 65 inch as well. Also previous owner of a Viera VT50 plasma noticing a huge difference in the motion handling.
But if I understand things correctly, when watching a 24p content using the TV's Real Cinema setting, there is no pulldown on frames therefor no 'judder'. However motion still seems different compared to for example Plasma. This is because the OLED does not give any motion blur because of it's response time being much faster. On the OLED we are actually seeing how a 24p film should look like, however we are not used to this. It's like u are just missing some frames. I mostly see this when zoomed in objects (for example people that are moving) and not so much when the camera is panning. What I'm wondering is if this is something u get used to over time.

If u use LG's TruMotion , extra interpolated frames are added to the 24 frames but this results in smoother motions but because of the interpolation some garbage is added. Additionally if you set this to full even the whole playback becomes strange because you are also not used to effectively higher frames per second. I had a similar experience in watching the Hobbit in HFR (48 fps).

For me it's hard to say which option to use. Either stick with 24 frames and learn to watch it. Or use TruMotion at a low level (right now i'm trying dejudder: 1, deblur: 1)

My Live TV is at 1080i/50. This seems to be smoother (motion wise) compared to 24p bluray content

 

^
Yes, there is a definate difference in perceptable judder versus the LG OLED's and the Panasonic Plasmas. I had the 65ZT60. Real Cinema does 3/2 pull-down but the LG sample-and-hold can give the perception of dual images so bright-images appear to jump.

However, Cinema projection is also different than Plasma where images lose focus during pans but do not appear to jump. I find that De-Judder at 1 or 2 is closer to the look at the cinema than even the Panasonic Plasma with some but modest artifacts. Much less jarring then with de-Judder off.

- Rich

 

New firmware for HDR Game and lag... check your update firmware notice or download to usb and manually install your self.

 

Hi Paul

I haven't noticed any difference wether it's ON or Off
However, i found out another way to solve this problem,
Now i don't know how you do most of your TV watching but i do mine mostly watching regular HD cable programing
I also watch a lot of Blurays and some 4K streaming via wifi.
So the only thing i had not checked yet was the settings of my cable box.
When a purchassed my E6, i had to get the 4K cable box that my cable provider offers to get the ''4K experience'' as they say...
So i checked the settings of this cable box to found out that the TV picture resolution signal was set to 1080i
I changed it to UHD 4K and see what would happen. I then returned in my Marantz settings and change the settings in Video - Output Settings as this:

For Marantz model NR1606 paired with LG OLED65E6P

Video Mode - Auto
Video Conversion - On
i/p Scaler - HDMI
-Resolution (analog) is grayed out on Auto
-Resolution (HDMI) - 4K
-Progressive Mode - Auto
-Aspect Ratio - 16:9

Guess what my friend ? the picture became better then i ever expected
I watched part of the semi finals of the World Junior Hochey Tournement on TSN 4K and the picture was absolutly amazing ! no blur, no judding just crisp and clear wow picture.
All the other regular HD chanels looked great as well and close to 4K. It must be the upscaling factor.
I really hope this will help some owners of this wonderfull TV because it really has the best picture i've ever seen.

Finally, here are my favorite settings used for most of my viewing wether it's cable TV, Bluray of wifi Streaming :

Picture Mode:
HDR Effect (User) Medium

OLED LIGHT:
60
Contrast:
89
Brightness:
57
Sharpness:
10
Color (grayed out)
50
Tint:
0
Color Temperature:
W35
-
Advenced Controls

Dynamic Contrast (grayes out)
Off
Dynimic Color
Off
Prefferred Color: Skin Color at 1, Grass at 0 and Sky at 0
Color Gamut:
Normal
Super Resolution
Off
Gamma (grayed out)
Medium
-
Picture Options

Noise Reduction:
Off
MPEG Noise Reduction:
Off
Black Level:
Low
Real Cinema (grayed out)
On
Motion Eye Care:
Off
TruMotion (User):
De-Judder at 4 and De-Blur at 10
---
Aspect Ratio:
Original (Just Scan)
3D Settings to your choice
Dual Play to your choice
Energy Saving:
Off
Eye Comfort Mode:Off
---
OLED Panel Settings should have Screen Shift ON

I hope this will help
Please give me your feed back.

Frank (meg1st)

 

Hi Guys,

Considering purchasing the 55 inch B6 but in recent days have read that judder/motion blur is a major issue.

My wife and I are blu ray buffs - but I also like to watch sports on my tv (football and hockey).

I am confused how this is one of the best tvs ever (per CNET) but tons of people saying that judder is a major problem.

It's giving me pause on making the purchase.

 

Because motion can be dialed in satisfactorily for most people.

I agree with VA here - it can be dialed in nicely. We are NOT used to zero response time either which further complicates things. OLEDs show 24p as it is "natively" for lack of a better term. I have found that for 24p content like blu-ray/DVD/whatever that Tru-Motion settings of DeJudder = 2 or 3 and Deblur = 8-10 are just fine(I se these now). Mess with them a bit and I suspect you'll be fine. Its not a big deal at all. But, forums are for discussing issues so it appears to be a major problem. It really isnt.

Just dont use Clear or Smooth - those are both fugly and mess things up, IMO. You can even leave Tru-Motion OFF. Doesnt bother me much turned OFF.

You wont have any problems with sports either.

 

Because motion can be dialed in satisfactorily for most people.

 

I have a particularly sharp eye for detail given what I do professionally. And with the E6, this has become a rather big curse. I can see judder constantly, likely in 24fps content as people have suggested. I've played around with all the motion settings, but I can never get it right. It's peculiar because, while it does often occur with fast panning scenes, I can always see the tearing/judder in a still shot in most anime I watch when they're talking. Their mouths are just so difficult to look at because of this.

The vast majority of content I watch is from my 4th gen Apple TV. I'd certainly prefer to continue using that, but I wonder if another device or setup would work better. All my devices are connected directly to my TV.

Some of you mentioned some success with some sort of external device that your HDMI connections first run through? I'm wondering if some sort of preprocessing of the video to always normalize the frame rate of problematic content would help. I may go back and tinker with the motion settings again, but at this point, I'm desperate for any solution that can fix this. Willing to buy whatever external hardware would help with something like this, though I'd love to not have to have "yet another device" to fool with.

Does anyone know if the purported LG firmware update has happened already to address this? I think my TV updated itself over Christmas when I came back. But if it indeed was a fix they implemented, I still see the problem in practically any non-30/60fps content I watch.

 

I find Apple content the worst. I have no idea why.

I ended up only using de-blur 10 and dejudder 0.

Any form of Djud result in weird stutter.

On other content I use B10J2

 

I don't have too much issue with judder. Even dejudder would be kinda usable if it did not introduce stutter. Judder and stutter are two seperate things. One is normal (judder) while one is not (stutter).

Please do not confuse the two.

 

Amazon Prime Goliath opens with some awful looking judder. TruMotion De-Judder at 3 helped a lot.
I went back a looked at this on the Pioneer 500M and judder was bad (although not as noticeable as the B6). I prefer the B6 with De-Judder.


- Rich

 

I really need to try and get some videos together to demonstrate the difference between judder (normal) and stutter (abnormal). So many people are confusing the two.

 

Not a bad idea, Dick.