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Pairing Bookshelf speakers with amp

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I am planning to replace floorstanding speakers (Paradigm monitor 9 v2) with wall mounted bookshelf speakers.
Room size is 23 sqm.
Already have subwoofer connected to a Pioneer VSX-919 receiver's LFE output port.
Usage is mainly music playback in stereo (vinyl).
The speakers will be wall mounted aprox 10 cm from the wall.
I was looking at front ported speakers like Elac DBR62 and UBR62 with sensitivity rating at 85db. (current speakers are 90db)
Will such speakers pair well with the receiver?
 
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Will such speakers pair well with the receiver?
There's no such thing as speakers "pairing" with electronics. Only a receiver salesman would claim otherwise.

The question is whether a given speaker will "pair" well with
  • Your individual room acoustics
  • Your preferred listening content / musical genres
  • Your preferred loudness levels and listening distance
  • Your subjective preferences/tastes
Generally speaking, those ELACs are a pretty safe bet although I would get something at least 87db or higher sensitivity unless it's a nearfield application or you listen only at moderate levels. The B6.2 would be worth a listen too, might be good enough---don't assume a speaker costing twice as much is necessarily twice as good. Especially since you have a subwoofer in play.
 
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They should be perfectly fine once you re-calibrate your system.
 
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I am planning to replace floorstanding speakers (Paradigm monitor 9 v2) with wall mounted bookshelf speakers.
Room size is 23 sqm.
Already have subwoofer connected to a Pioneer VSX-919 receiver's LFE output port.
Usage is mainly music playback in stereo (vinyl).
The speakers will be wall mounted aprox 10 cm from the wall.
I was looking at front ported speakers like Elac DBR62 and UBR62 with sensitivity rating at 85db. (current speakers are 90db)
Will such speakers pair well with the receiver?
I prefer speakers with a higher sensitivity, at least a 90-92 db/w/m claimed.
 
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Using the calculator on http://www.hometheaterengineering.com/splcalculator.html
Only need about 1 W to reach 75 dB, which is a typical not excessively loud listening volume.
Don't worry about power, for typical home use, you are very unlikely to run into power limitations (excluding bass frequencies, which the subwoofer would handle).
 
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Already have subwoofer connected to a Pioneer VSX-919 receiver's LFE output port.
LFE? Or do you mean the one RCA that says "Subwoofer"? LFE is a particular track on soundtracks, that would not have all the bass from the music.

The new speakers will require you to turn up the volume more, but given your settings, you should not come near clipping the amp. Get the UniFi, that's a good way to do things. The separate midrange allows the crossover points to be moved outside the main vocal range, and the coaxial design avoids the lobing inherent designs where the woofer and tweeter .
 
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I meant the single mono RCA port on the back of the receiver labeled "Sub", and on my receiver I can manually set the cutover frequency to 80hz for example.
so when main speakers are set as SMALL, anything below 80hz only goes to the SW.
The UBR62 is just a bit more expensive than the DBR62 so I also thought it will be the best choice.
My only concern, are they forgiving when placed rather close to a wall (8-10cm distance)
 
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Both would be perfectly fine.
 
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Question on how to setup the UBR62. I currently have Paradigm Monitor 9 V2 conected to Pioneer VSX919 + powered SW. The front speakers are Bi-amped and setup as Large. Going to replace the front speakers with ELAC UBR62, same SW and same Receiver. The new speakers will be setup as SMALL. Is there any benefit of still Bi-amping the front speakers ?
 
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Just curious, why are the amp manufacturers going thru the trouble of provifing the option to bi-amp the front speakers ?
Because the illusion of having more power available sells, and it costs nothing for them to implement
In my case, the HI and LO speaker cables are connected to different ports on the receiver (Low freq is amplified by surr back channels)
Is this still considred passive setup?
Yes. Active bi-amping is when the crossover network is prior to the power amps.