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Projector that can throw 100" @ 9ft??

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#1 · (Edited)
So I recently ran into a small issue with my basement theater build. I am plagued with low ceilings (7ft) and a support beam that basically splits my room in half. We just built the riser for my 2nd row of seats so I did some testing tonight.

My current projector is an Epson 8700UB. I am using a 100" screen. My original plan was to make a shelf so that the top of the projector was basically touching the bottom of the beam. The downside to this is it is in the field of view for the viewers in the rear seats. It does not block the screen image but its close. Within a few inches. I mocked up quick just using a cardboard box and sitting in the seats. I am worried someone taller may have an issue. The seats do recline so it will help the situation but its very tight. At the position the projector is at under the beam it is 10'6" away from the screen and I can project the full 100" with almost full zoom.

I tried placing the projector directly infront of the beam with the rear of the projector touching the beam. I come up slightly short with a 96" picture. Lense distance is approx 9'5" from the screen @ that point.

So I was thinking. If I can find a Projector equal to or better than my Epson 8700 that can throw 100" @ 9-9'5" lense distance I can get the projector out of view from the rear viewers. I cannot seem to find anything that is capable of this though. Most (using the calculator) throw 100" @ 9'9". I may be able to get away with something that throw 100" with a 9'9" lense distance if the Projector is not as long as the Epson. The epson from the back to the lense is approx 14". I would need a PJ that is 10" long to make this work if it throws 100" @ the what seems to be standard 9'9" @ full zoom.

Do any of you guys have any suggestions to my small dilemma? Budget is roughly $2500 for a projector. That is my ceiling though I would like to keep it lower. The below pic is what I am working with. I made a small edit with MSPaint so you can see what I am talking about where the PJ will be directly under the beam (which is directly in front of the HVAC ducting in the picture)

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In this picture you can see the beam that is directly in front of the ducting that I am talking about, its the part that is painted black

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#3 ·
The room is 21 feet deep. The issue is. The HVAC ducting and beam that split the room hangs low (makes the ceiling roughly 6.5 feet @ that point. So 1 of 2 things happens if I mount it further back.

1. The image hits the HVAC ducting if I move the projector high if mounting @ the back wall and blocks the projected image to the screen

2. If I try to mount the PJ lower @ the back wall, it hits the back of the chairs/viewers heads and blocks the image to the screen.

Last issue is. The room is almost finished and I ran the HDMI in conduit to where we originally planned. So even if I wanted to move it back, I would have to rip the ceiling out to get the HDMI wire to a different position
 
#4 ·
This is what the back of the room looks like. I just went and measured again. Its exactly 6 ft from the floor to the bottom of the HVAC ducting. Its 6'2" floor to bottom of the beam. The riser for the seats is 12" high and the seats are approx 46"-48" to the top of the seat back. If I lower the riser 2-4" the front row will slightly block the viewers in the rear.

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and here is a better shot of the beam and the HVAC ducting that is boxed in. This is the best I can do with what I had to work with unfortunately.

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#6 ·
The Benq W1070 can fill up to a 110" screen from your throw -- it is only 10" deep so you should have a touch more than 9' throw.

However ... I keep trying to convince people that multiple row seating requires a larger screen. Why ? Because the difference between first row and second row is at least 5' and in your case looks like even more than that. So a 100" screen that looks appropriate from 9' or 10' (at 1.2x width) for the first row looks really small (2.1x width) from a second row at 15' or 16'. 2.1x is further back than the back row at most commercial cinemas.

If it were me, I'd shorten the riser platform by 2' so the front row is 11' from the screen and bump up my screen size to 140". Then I'd buy the short throw version of the W1070, the W1080ST which can fill that larger size screen from under 8' throw. First row would be at 1.1x and second at 1.5x.

If I were starting from scratch, I'd have chosen the long wall for the screen and have a single long row of seats amphitheater style arced 12' in front of the larger 140" screen with the 8700UB projector mounted back by the support pole 16' away. But that's just me and my dislike for having people sitting behind me in a theater.:D
 
#8 ·
I've gotta agree with others. If that beam is 9', your first row of seating is several feet behind that (12') and your second row may be at 16' or more. You should be looking at a 133" or larger screen quite easily. The W1080ST can do that nicely, and will be relatively out of the way in front of the beam.
 
#11 ·
I am not suggesting that you put the projector below or behind the beam. I realize the 9'+ mark is as close as you get.

The W1080ST is a short throw projector on the body of what is basically the W1070. So you get a 100" diagonal from 5' to 6' lens to screen. That's fine, but you are size limited.

Basically, the W1070 will work if 100" is all you want. That size is small and doesn't meet THX specifications for the front row of seating. Caring so much about the rear row of seating getting a good view of an undersized screen is just not what I would be considering or recommending. You have to live with it, but the size is smaller than typical and smaller than industry standard recommendations.

Your center speaker placement is irrelevant if you angle it properly.

I would just go larger. You can still get great sound, and get a solid image size, while keeping the projector in front of the beam. Up to you on this.