How to check your S90C panel type

You need a service remote or virtual remote (I use this one on Android and here is an iOS app)

Press Mute, 1, 1, 9, then the OK button (center of directional pad). This will bring up the Hospitality Menu after a brief moment (don't play around here you could reset your settings) then press 1, 2, 3, 4 then wait for the Service Menu menu to pop up. You now can use your normal remote again. Go down to "advanced" using the direction pad/circle and press up on volume for 5 seconds and a new menu will appear. Select "EPA" then look at your ana_peak values, if they are in the 500s you have a gen 2 panel. Power off when you are done to leave the service menu.

Best of luck!

 

How to check your S90C panel type

You need a service remote or virtual remote (I use this one)

Press Mute, 1, 1, 9, then the OK button (center of directional pad). This will bring up the Hospitality Menu after a brief moment (don't play around here you could reset your settings) then press 1, 2, 3, 4 then wait for the Service Menu menu to pop up. You now can use your normal remote again. Go down to "advanced" using the direction pad/circle and press up on volume for 5 seconds and a new menu will appear. Select "EPA" then look at your ana_peak values, if they are in the 500s you have a gen 2 panel. Power off when you are done to leave the service menu.

Best of luck!

Thanks. i have the original samsung oled from 2015, so I had a remote for that one, which worked for this tv as well. I do have the gen 2 panel, even though i saw others who had version 3 and august builds who still had 1st gen panel.

What sucks, though, is who knows if I can even keep it because for some odd reason my tivo isn't working on it. It goes to a black screen.

Do you know if any professional calibrators have shared settings with gen 2 panel? I wonder if I should try settings from a s95c, since it would be the same panel.

 

AP 512 cheat sheet

AP 588 cheat sheet

AP 667 (S95C) cheat sheet

Legacy Temporary AP588 Settings Post that will later be removed/replaced as I break out each mode into its own individual post.

FMM/MM SDR: Brightness 27, Contrast 36, Color 26, Tint G1, BT1886: -1, Gamut: Auto/709 (Target 100 nits 2.4 Gamma, Preferred)

FMM/MM SDR: Brightness 47, Contrast 38, Color 25, BT1886: -1, Gamut: Auto/709 (Target 160 nits 2.4 Gamma, Bright Room)

FMM HDR: Brightness 50, Contrast 48, Color 20, ST2084: 0, Gamut: Custom/2020 (Custom BT.2020 CMS settings found here or below)

PC Graphic SDR Brightness 30, Contrast 34, Color 25, BT1886: 0, Gamut: Auto/709 (Target 100 nits 2.2 Gamma)

PC Game SDR: Brightness: 30, Contrast 34, Color 25, BT1886: 0, Gamut: Auto/709 (Target 100 nits 2.2 Gamma, "Original Preset")

PC Game HDR: Brightness 50, Contrast 48, Color 15, ST2084: 0, Gamut: Custom/2020 (CMS recommendations, GameHDR Basic & -4/-3/-3 offset worth mentioning)
Note: In GM HDR Windows SDR/HDR slider @ 5 Targeting 100 nits 2.2 Gamma Pseudo SDR Desktop

XSX/Console Game Mode SDR: Brightness: 25, Contrast 38, Color 25, BT1886: +2, Gamut: Auto/709 (Target 100 nits 2.2 Gamma, "Original Preset", higher nit values here)

XSX/Console Game Mode HDR: Brightness 50, Contrast 48, Color 15, ST2084: 0, Gamut: Custom/2020 (Custom BT.2020 CMS settings found here or below)

All SDR settings have Peak Brightness and Contrast Enhancer Off. Also Ensure Brightness Optimization is off in settings>General & Privacy>Power and Energy Saving.

All recommendations here pertain to S90Cs w/ 2nd gen panels (ANA_PEAK 588).

Update: According to @vitaliy vasylkov findings S90Cs with ANA PEAK 512 should also be able to use these settings. It has also been by multiple users reported these settings work well with the S89C.

All SDR settings have Peak Brightness and Contrast Enhancer Off

Most recent FMM/MM HDR settings

Most recent Game Mode HDR Settings

Settings Recommendation From Other Calibrators

AP512 FMM/MM SDR & HDR (day/night) settings cheat sheet made by @Charlievdm

 

Temporary Settings Post that will later be removed/replaced as I break out each mode into its own individual post.

FMM/MM SDR: Brightness 27, Contrast 36, Color 26, Tint G1, BT1886: -1, Gamut: Auto/709 (Target 100 nits 2.4 Gamma, Peak Brightness Off)

FMM/MM SDR: Brightness 39, Contrast 45, Color 25, BT1886: -1, Gamut: Auto/709 (Target 160 nits 2.4 Gamma, basically the fixed/-PB version of Samsung's default)

FMM HDR: Brightness 50, Contrast 48, Color 20, ST2084: 0, Gamut: Custom/2020 (Custom BT.2020 CMS settings found here or below)

PC Graphic SDR Brightness 27, Contrast 38, Color 25, BT1886: 0, Gamut: Auto/709 (Target 100 nits 2.2 Gamma)

PC Game SDR: Brightness: 27, Contrast 38, Color 25, BT1886: 0, Gamut: Auto/709 (Target 100 nits 2.2 Gamma, "Original Preset")

PC Game HDR: Brightness 50, Contrast 48, Color 15, ST2084: 0, Gamut: Custom/2020 (CMS recommendations, GameHDR Basic & -4/3/3 offset worth mentioning)
Note: In GM HDR Windows SDR/HDR slider @ 5 Targeting 100 nits 2.2 Gamma Pseudo SDR Desktop

XSX/Console Game Mode SDR: Brightness: 25, Contrast 38, Color 25, BT1886: +2, Gamut: Auto/709 (Target 100 nits 2.2 Gamma, "Original Preset", higher nit values here)

XSX/Console Game Mode HDR: Brightness 50, Contrast 48, Color 15, ST2084: 0, Gamut: Custom/2020 (Custom BT.2020 CMS settings found here or below)

All recommendations here pertain to S90Cs w/ 2nd gen panels (ANA_PEAK 588)

My current BT.2020 CMS results can be found here.

BT.2020 CMS settings
Red- R 30 G 87 B 26
Green- R 87 G 30 B 32
Blue- R 86 G 86 B 87
Yellow- R 50 G 50 B 50
Cyan - R 50 G 50 B 50
Magenta - R 50 G 50 B 50

Thanks for posting this information as I just ordered a 65 inch S90C. I have a question about your HDR settings though for the Anapeak 588 you have listed. Should we use BT2020 color 15 for game HDR and color 20 for FMM HDR even with we dont mess around with CMS settings? I'm just confused here if I should use P3 or BT2020 for HDR content, given P3 is more accurate. I saw Classy's settings for the S95c and he recommended P3, though thats obviously a different model.... I really wish Samsung would fix this auto color space issue. If the colors are accurate enough in BT2020 with those color adjustments and not doing CMS changes ideally Id like to go with that and not worry about it going forward. I would just use P3 in games but based on Vincents reviews P3 can introduce more posterization and I HATE that in games....

 

Current Xbox set up guide w/ 2.2 Gamma Game Mode SDR luminance settings (peak brightness off).

"Shadow Detail" (SD) works like "Fine Tune Dark Areas" on LG sets with this pattern, though when configured properly and using the right black level combo (Auto/Low Standard) the closed eye should not be visible. +1 SD will make it faint up close, +3 visible from couch, and +5 visible from anywhere given appropriate ambient light for an OLED TV (This was observed after break-in of the panel). I don't recommend using SD in normal operation (lifts/kills true blacks), you'll take better advantage of your OLED TV's contrast range if you just reduce ambient light to better see dark areas.

The sun will fade as contrast increases (not brightness) and at max contrast on this set you still won't have to worry about clipping it completely (not visible) as long as you are configurated for accuracy: "Original" Preset, CE OFF, Peak Brightness OFF, and BT.1886 + 2 for 2.2 Gamma which is default Gamma for the Xbox. Ultimately, failing this pattern is not the sun being visible but rather that you can't see it at all.

The following are the recommended values for Xbox system level HDR calibration on a 77" S90C (press all top triggers/bumpers on controller simultaneously during HDR test patterns to see values) and likely any other S90c w/ second gen panel factory set to ANA PEAK 588:
MinTML: 0.000
MaxTML: 2000
MaxFFTML: 2000

Note: There have been some reports that AP512 units tone map to 1300 nits instead of 2000 nits.

Game Mode SDR Settings (all work with test images as described):
Brightness/Contrast=Nits (with +2 BT.1886/2.2 Gamma)
25/38=100
32/38=120
47/38=160
50/47=200

Remove +2 BT.1886 from settings for 2.4 Gamma

I'll fill this in with helpful pics and test results soon.

 

"Shadow Detail" (SD) works like "Fine Tune Dark Areas" on LG sets with this pattern, though when configured properly and using the right black level combo (Auto/Low Standard) the closed eye should not be visible. +1 SD will make it faint up close, +3 visible from couch, and +5 visible from anywhere given appropriate ambient light for an OLED TV (This was observed after break-in of the panel). I don't recommend using SD in normal operation (lifts/kills true blacks), you'll take better advantage of your OLED TV's contrast range if you just reduce ambient light to better see dark areas.

Sorry for harping on this again, but I still feel that this is a misleading statement. It only works like FTDS when doing black level calibration and looking at a pattern. (Because that is all you see)
In real content it does not work the same way at all. Something which the Gaming Tech channel is right about.
I still critize his videos though, there are other ways of tackling black level raise that he does not try.
(They have their drawbacks of course, may not always be worth it)

Quote of Youtube comments I've left:
"Please do more research for your S95C videos. There are other ways of manipulating the image on Samsung TVs to fight black-level raise, I've commented about this before on your older videos. Engage Contrast Enhancer , it will crush blacks, High crushes the most.Then adjust ST/SD and Contrast to mitigate the over-brightened midtones and clipped highlights."

"Also, the S95B [2022 models] doesn't have "Active Tonemapping" toggle. You can only turn off Game HDR, to get DTM close to Active TM"

 

S90C 77" FMM SDR 100nit 2.4 Gamma Settings Recommendations

@vitaliy vasylkov beat me to the punch on correcting FMM/MM SDR in CMS and did a great job. These will outperform the previous preliminary settings.

Vitaliy's SDR FMM/Movie Settings ( as of 02/19/24)
Brightness: 27 (~100 nit)
Contrast: 36
Colour: 25
Tint: 0
Contrast Enhancer off
Colour Tone: Warm 2
Gamma: BT.1886
Bt.1886: -1
Colour: Custom
Red 81/65/55
Green 65/65/58
Blue 50/54/84
Yellow 57/68/52
Cyan 50/50/50
Magenta 76/58/70
Peak Brightness: Off

L337fool's local verification

Spoiler: Previous Preliminary Entry (No CMS)

Brightness 27
Contrast 36
Sharpness 0
Color 26
Tint G1
Contrast Enhancer OFF (Invalidates all CMS adjustments and wrecks color accuracy)
Color Tone Warm 2
White Balance

Spoiler: WB settings not recommended to copy as they are panel specific adjustments, but may help with image being a bit too bright and/or tinted

RG -6 GG -2 BG -4 RO 0 GO 0 BO 0

BT.1886 -1
Shadow Detail 0
Color Space Settings Auto
Peak Brightness Off

Note: Also tested in the MM slot to work the same there if you so choose.

 

Brightness 27 for 588 (29 for 512) (25 for 667)
Contrast 36
Sharpness 0
Color 26
Tint G1
Contrast Enhancer OFF (Invalidates all CMS adjustments and wrecks color accuracy)
Color Tone Warm 2
White Balance

You would do well to add your WB so everyone can add your "warm2" white to their unit (could it work!?).
For example, these are my 2 s90cs with different values. I add (2 pt menu) to unit 1: RG +4 BG +2 and I get the same grayscale.
1:

2:

 

S90C/S89C Filmmaker/Movie Mode HDR Settings Recommendations

ANA_PEAK(AP)588 Config (AP512 & AP 667 guidance can be found at the bottom of the post)

Brightness: 50
Contrast: 50
Sharpness: 0
Color: 21
Tint: 0
Contrast Enhancer: OFF (Invalidates all CMS adjustments and wrecks color accuracy demonstrated in results)
HDR Tone Mapping: Static (or Active for bright viewing environments, though will adversely impact accuracy)
Color Tone: Warm 2
White Balance: It is advised to apply just +4 to red, blue, and green offset under White Balance>2 Point on all sets to adjust for -1 ST.

Spoiler: Other WB settings not recommended to copy as they are panel specific adjustments, though may help if you experience a tint

2PT WB RG -6 GG -2 BG-4 RO 4 GO 4 BO 4 (SM R122 G128 B146)

Gamma: ST.2084
ST: -1 (Grayscale adjustment used in conjunction with +4 RGB Offset sweep, mileage may vary per panel on this adjustment)
Shadow Detail: 0
Color Space Settings: *Custom (BT.2020)
Peak Brightness: High

*Custom CMS
Red 32/68/33
Green 87/50/34
Blue 61/61/86
Yellow 50/50/50
Cyan 100/50/50
Magenta 70/85/95

Local Verification

Vitaliy's Independent 1000 point verification conducted on remote S90C

Spoiler: Previous Release

Brightness: 50
Contrast: 50
Sharpness: 0
Color: 21
Tint: 0 (Employ R1 if very bright reds tint orange on your set)
Contrast Enhancer: OFF (Invalidates all CMS adjustments and wrecks color accuracy demonstrated in results)
HDR Tone Mapping: Static (or Active for bright viewing environments, though will adversely impact accuracy)
Color Tone: Warm 2
White Balance: It is advised to apply just +4 to red, blue, and green offset under White Balance>2 Point on all sets to adjust for -1 ST.

Spoiler: Other WB settings not recommended to copy as they are panel specific adjustments, though may help if you experience a tint

2PT WB RG -6 GG -2 BG-4 RO 4 GO 4 BO 4 (SM R122 G128 B146)

Gamma: ST.2084
ST: -1 (Grayscale adjustment used in conjunction with +4 RGB Offset sweep, mileage may vary per panel on this adjustment)
Shadow Detail: 0
Color Space Settings: *Custom (BT.2020)
Peak Brightness: High

*CMS
Red R33 G87 B32
Green R87 G24 B32
Blue R74 G86 B87
Yellow R50 G50 B50
Cyan R50 G50 B50
Magenta R50 G50 B50

View attachment 3569038

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Technical comparison between this and the last release showing the trade offs as both are very close and viable

If your find -ST crushes black with your specific panel you can try the following settings instead with the Samsung CMS adjustments.

Brightness 50, Contrast 48, Color 21 (with no -ST and Offset sweep)

This may also be a better alternative for grayscale prior to panel break in (roughly 200 hours w/ comp cycles).

@vitaliy vasylkov was kind enough to validate these settings were compatible with AP512 S90Cs (some 55 and 65" models) and requires no -ST or Offset, only Contrast 49. He also validated these setting for AP 667 on S90Cs (S95C mod) with no SD or ST adjustments and 50 brightness/50 Contrast.

Thank you Vitaliy!

 

S90C/S89C PC & Console Game Mode HDR Settings Recommendations

ANA_PEAK(AP)588 Config (AP512 & AP667/S95C guidance can be found at the bottom of the post)

Brightness: 50
Contrast: 48
Sharpness: 10
Color: 15
Tint: 0
Contrast Enhancer: OFF (Invalidates all CMS adjustments and wrecks color accuracy demonstrated in results)
HDR Tone Mapping: Static
Color Tone: Warm 2
White Balance

Spoiler: WB settings not recommended to copy as they are panel specific adjustments, though may help if you experience a tint

2PT WB RG -6 GG -2 BG-4 RO -3 GO -3 BO -3 (SM R122 G128 B146)

Gamma: ST.2084
ST: 0 (- 3 Offset on Red, Green, and Blue under White Balance 2PT employed in combination with Contrast 48 used to correct PQ EOTF over tracking)
Shadow Detail: 0
Color Space Settings: *Custom (BT.2020)
Peak Brightness: High

*Custom BT.2020 CMS Settings
Red 24/68/33
Green 87/50/30
Blue 67/61/86
Yellow 17/10/50
Cyan 100/25/50
Magenta 20/85/50

Setttings>Connections>Game Mode Settings>Game Picture Expert: GameHDR Basic

Note: The general Console and Xbox HDMI profiles have different PQ EOTF Tracking than the PC profile and require 47 Contrast -1 ST w/ no offset adjustments to get the best/most accurate grayscale results (@vitaliy vasylkov was kind enough to check all ANA_Peak values and it appears to be a universal adjustment).

Vitaliy's readings on his S90C

Spoiler: Previous Release

Brightness: 50
Contrast: 48
Sharpness: 10
Color: 16
Tint: 0 (Employ R1 if very bright reds tint orange on your set)
Contrast Enhancer: OFF (Invalidates all CMS adjustments and wrecks color accuracy demonstrated in results)
HDR Tone Mapping: Static
Color Tone: Warm 2
White Balance

Spoiler: WB settings not recommended to copy as they are panel specific adjustments, though may help if you experience a tint

2PT WB RG -6 GG -2 BG-4 RO -3 GO -3 BO -3 (SM R122 G128 B146)

Gamma: ST.2084
ST: 0 (- 3 Offset on Red, Green, and Blue under White Balance 2PT employed in combination with Contrast 48 used to correct PQ EOTF over tracking)
Shadow Detail: 0
Color Space Settings: *Custom (BT.2020)
Peak Brightness: High

*Custom BT.2020 CMS Settings
Red: R24 G87 B26
Green: R87 G30 B32
Blue: R74 G86 B87
Yellow R50 G50 B50
Cyan R50 G50 B50
Magenta R50 G50 B50

Setttings>Connections>Game Mode Settings>Game Picture Expert: GameHDR Basic

Note: The general Console and Xbox HDMI profiles have different PQ EOTF Tracking than the PC profile and require 47 Contrast -1 ST w/ no offset adjustments to get the best/most accurate grayscale results (@vitaliy vasylkov was kind enough to check all ANA_Peak values and it appears to be a universal adjustment).

@vitaliy vasylkov was kind enough to validate these CMS settings were also compatible with AP512 S90Cs and AP667/S95C which are listed below.

AP512
PC: ST -1 / SD 0 / offset 0 / Contrast 49
Console: ST -1 / SD 0 / offset 0 / Contrast 47

AP667 ~1360 nit
PC: ST -1 / SD 0 / offset 0 / Contrast 49
Console: ST -1 / SD 0 / offset 0 / Contrast 47


Thank you Vitaliy!

 

S90C/S89C PC & Console Game Mode HDR Settings Recommendations

ANA_PEAK(AP)588 Config (AP512 & AP667/S95C guidance can be found at the bottom of the post)

Brightness: 50
Contrast: 48
Sharpness: 10
Color: 15
Tint: 0
Contrast Enhancer: OFF (Invalidates all CMS adjustments and wrecks color accuracy demonstrated in results)
HDR Tone Mapping: Static
Color Tone: Warm 2
White Balance

Spoiler: WB settings not recommended to copy as they are panel specific adjustments, though may help if you experience a tint

2PT WB RG -6 GG -2 BG-4 RO -3 GO -3 BO -3 (SM R122 G128 B146)

Gamma: ST.2084
ST: 0 (- 3 Offset on Red, Green, and Blue under White Balance 2PT employed in combination with Contrast 48 used to correct PQ EOTF over tracking)
Shadow Detail: 0
Color Space Settings: *Custom (BT.2020)
Peak Brightness: High

*Custom BT.2020 CMS Settings
Red 24/68/33
Green 87/50/30
Blue 67/61/86
Yellow 17/10/50
Cyan 100/25/50
Magenta 20/85/50

Setttings>Connections>Game Mode Settings>Game Picture Expert: GameHDR Basic

Note: The general Console and Xbox HDMI profiles have different PQ EOTF Tracking than the PC profile and require 47 Contrast -1 ST w/ no offset adjustments to get the best/most accurate grayscale results (@vitaliy vasylkov was kind enough to check all ANA_Peak values and it appears to be a universal adjustment).

Vitaliy's readings on his S90C

Spoiler: Previous Release

Brightness: 50
Contrast: 48
Sharpness: 10
Color: 16
Tint: 0 (Employ R1 if very bright reds tint orange on your set)
Contrast Enhancer: OFF (Invalidates all CMS adjustments and wrecks color accuracy demonstrated in results)
HDR Tone Mapping: Static
Color Tone: Warm 2
White Balance

Spoiler: WB settings not recommended to copy as they are panel specific adjustments, though may help if you experience a tint

2PT WB RG -6 GG -2 BG-4 RO -3 GO -3 BO -3 (SM R122 G128 B146)

Gamma: ST.2084
ST: 0 (- 3 Offset on Red, Green, and Blue under White Balance 2PT employed in combination with Contrast 48 used to correct PQ EOTF over tracking)
Shadow Detail: 0
Color Space Settings: *Custom (BT.2020)
Peak Brightness: High

*Custom BT.2020 CMS Settings
Red: R24 G87 B26
Green: R87 G30 B32
Blue: R74 G86 B87
Yellow R50 G50 B50
Cyan R50 G50 B50
Magenta R50 G50 B50

Setttings>Connections>Game Mode Settings>Game Picture Expert: GameHDR Basic

Note: The general Console and Xbox HDMI profiles have different PQ EOTF Tracking than the PC profile and require 47 Contrast -1 ST w/ no offset adjustments to get the best/most accurate grayscale results (@vitaliy vasylkov was kind enough to check all ANA_Peak values and it appears to be a universal adjustment).

@vitaliy vasylkov was kind enough to validate these CMS settings were also compatible with AP512 S90Cs and AP667/S95C which are listed below.

AP512
PC: ST -1 / SD 0 / offset 0 / Contrast 49
Console: ST -1 / SD 0 / offset 0 / Contrast 47

AP667
PC: ST -1 / SD 0 / offset 0 / Contrast 49
Console: ST -1 / SD 0 / offset 0 / Contrast 47 ~1360 nit


Thank you Vitaliy!

Are these valid for console ps5 as well? Sharpness 15 is a no go for sure

 

Reserved (Future PC Game Mode SDR Settings)

 

Reserved (Future Console Game Mode SDR Settings)

 

A list of some films reportedly featuring BT.2020 Colors exceeding P3 showcasing the QD-OLED advantage:

• 1917
• 2001: A Space Odyssey (2018 4K Remaster)
• Alien: Covenant
• Ambulance
• Amazing Spiderman 2, The
• Aquaman
• Atomic Blonde
• Avatar: The Way of Water
• Blade Runner 2049
• Dungeons and Dragons: Honor Among Thieves
• Encanto
• Fifth Element, The (20th Anniversary Edition)
• Greatest Showman, The
• Inside Out
• John Wick 3
• La La Land
• Lego Batman
• Lucy
• Mad Max: Fury Road (2015)
• Matrix, The (I)
• Matrix, The: Reloaded (II)
• Matrix, The: Revolutions (III)
• Planet Earth II
• Shape of Water, The (Best Picture, 2018)
• Spiderman: Across the Spider-Verse (II)
• Spiderman: Into the Spider-Verse (I)

For more details on how these colors impact films Nanosys did a series where they went several films on this list a few years back during Display Week.

 

Filmmaker/Movie Mode HDR Settings Recommendations

Brightness: 50
Contrast: 50
Sharpness: 0
Color: 21 (I was being strict with color luminance, 22 or even 23 should be fine is you prefer a bit more saturated and brighter colors at the cost of a bit of accuracy)
Tint: 0
Contrast Enhancer: OFF (Invalidates all CMS adjustments and wrecks color accuracy demonstrated in results)
HDR Tone Mapping: Static (or Active for bright viewing environments, though will adversely impact accuracy)
Color Tone: Warm 2
White Balance

Spoiler: WB settings not recommended to copy as they are panel specific adjustments, though may help if you experience a tint

2PT WB RG -4 GG 1 BG-2 RO 3 GO 3 BO 3 (SM R122 G128 B146)

Gamma: ST.2084
ST: -1 (Grayscale adjustment used in conjunction with +3 RGB Offset sweep, mileage may vary per panel on this adjustment)
Shadow Detail: 0
Color Space Settings: *Custom (BT.2020)
Peak Brightness: High

*CMS
Red R33 G87 B32
Green R87 G30 B32
Blue R74 G86 B87
Yellow R50 G50 B50
Cyan R50 G50 B50
Magenta R50 G50 B50

View attachment 3536748

If your find -ST crushes black with your specific panel you can try the following settings instead with the Samsung CMS adjustments.

Brightness 50, Contrast 48, Color 20 (with no -ST and Offset sweep)

This may also be a better alternative for grayscale prior to panel break in (roughly 200 hours w/ comp cycles).

Does « SM R122 G128 B146 » means we need to change the two points wb in service menu for hdr?

 

AP 588 Cheat Sheet

BRIGHT ROOM SDR - MOVIE (160 nits)
Brightness 47
Contrast 38
Sharpness 0
Color 25
Tint 0
Contrast Enhancer OFF
Color Tone Warm 2
White Balance DEFAULT
BT.1886 0
Shadow Detail 0
Color Space Settings Custom-BT.709
Peak Brightness Off
Red 81/65/55
Green 65/65/58
Blue 50/54/84
Yellow 57/68/52
Cyan 50/50/50
Magenta 76/58/70

DARK ROOM SDR - FILMMAKER (100 nits)
Brightness 27
Contrast 36
Sharpness 0
Color 25
Tint 0
Contrast Enhancer OFF
Color Tone Warm 2
White Balance DEFAULT
BT.1886 -1
Shadow Detail 0
Color Space Settings Custom-BT.709
Peak Brightness Off
Red 81/65/55
Green 65/65/58
Blue 50/54/84
Yellow 57/68/52
Cyan 50/50/50
Magenta 76/58/70

BRIGHT ROOM HDR - MOVIE (DTM)
Brightness 50
Contrast 50
Sharpness 0
Color 21
Tint 0
Contrast Enhancer OFF
HDR Tone mapping ACTIVE
Color Tone Warm 2
White Balance DEFAULT
ST.2084 OR HLG (SKY STREAM) 0
Shadow Detail 0
Color Space Settings CUSTOM-BT.2020
Red 32/68/33
Green 87/50/34
Blue 61/61/86
Yellow 50/50/50
Cyan 100/50/50
Magenta 70/85/95
Peak Brightness HIGH

DARK ROOM HDR - FILMMAKER (STM)
Brightness 50
Contrast 48
Sharpness 0
Color 21
Tint 0
Contrast Enhancer OFF
HDR Tone mapping STATIC
Color Tone Warm 2
White Balance DEFAULT
ST.2084 OR HLG (SKY STREAM) 0
Shadow Detail 0
Color Space Settings CUSTOM-BT.2020
Red 32/68/33
Green 87/50/34
Blue 61/61/86
Yellow 50/50/50
Cyan 100/50/50
Magenta 70/85/95
Peak Brightness HIGH

Suggested Picture clarity settings on all modes - Custom - BR 0/JR 3/CM OFF/NR OFF
Intelligent modes and energy saving features all disabled obviously.

 

Reserved (Future PC Graphic Mode HDR Settings)

 

AP 667 (S95C) Cheat Sheet

BRIGHT ROOM SDR - MOVIE (160 nits)
Brightness 35
Contrast 38
Sharpness 0
Color 25
Tint 0
Contrast Enhancer OFF
Color Tone Warm 2
White Balance DEFAULT
BT.1886 0
Shadow Detail 0
Color Space Settings Custom-BT.709
Peak Brightness Off
Red 81/65/55
Green 65/65/58
Blue 50/54/84
Yellow 57/68/52
Cyan 50/50/50
Magenta 76/58/70

DARK ROOM SDR - FILMMAKER (100 nits)
Brightness 21
Contrast 36
Sharpness 0
Color 25
Tint 0
Contrast Enhancer OFF
Color Tone Warm 2
White Balance DEFAULT
BT.1886 -1
Shadow Detail 0
Color Space Settings Custom-BT.709
Peak Brightness Off
Red 81/65/55
Green 65/65/58
Blue 50/54/84
Yellow 57/68/52
Cyan 50/50/50
Magenta 76/58/70

BRIGHT ROOM HDR - MOVIE (DTM)
Brightness 50
Contrast 50
Sharpness 0
Color 21
Tint 0
Contrast Enhancer OFF
HDR Tone mapping ACTIVE
Color Tone Warm 2
White Balance DEFAULT
ST.2084 OR HLG (SKY STREAM) 0
Shadow Detail 0
Color Space Settings CUSTOM-BT.2020
Red 32/68/33
Green 87/50/34
Blue 61/61/86
Yellow 50/50/50
Cyan 100/50/50
Magenta 70/85/95
Peak Brightness HIGH

DARK ROOM HDR - FILMMAKER (STM)
Brightness 50
Contrast 49
Sharpness 0
Color 21
Tint 0
Contrast Enhancer OFF
HDR Tone mapping STATIC
Color Tone Warm 2
White Balance DEFAULT
ST.2084 OR HLG (SKY STREAM) 0
Shadow Detail 0
Color Space Settings CUSTOM-BT.2020
Red 32/68/33
Green 87/50/34
Blue 61/61/86
Yellow 50/50/50
Cyan 100/50/50
Magenta 70/85/95
Peak Brightness HIGH

Suggested Picture clarity settings on all modes - Custom - BR 0/JR 3/CM OFF/NR OFF
Intelligent modes and energy saving features all disabled obviously.

 

Preliminary PC/Console Game Mode HDR Settings Recommendations

Game Mode HDR final candidate. I will work to finalize these after the new year.

Brightness: 50
Contrast: 48
Sharpness: 0
Color: 16
Tint: 0
Contrast Enhancer: OFF (Invalidates all CMS adjustments and wrecks color accuracy demonstrated in results)
HDR Tone Mapping: Static
Color Tone: Warm 2
White Balance

Spoiler: WB settings not recommended to copy as they are panel specific adjustments, though may help if you experience a tint

2PT WB RG -4 GG 0 BG-2 RO -4 GO -3 BO -3 (SM R122 G128 B146)

Gamma: ST.2084
ST: 0 (- 3 Offset on Red, Green, and Blue under White Balance 2PT employed in combination with Contrast 48 used to correct PQ EOTF over tracking)
Shadow Detail: 0
Color Space Settings: *Custom (BT.2020)
Peak Brightness: High

*Custom BT.2020 CMS Settings
Red: R24 G87 B26
Green: R87 G30 B32
Blue: R74 G86 B87
Yellow R50 G50 B50
Cyan R50 G50 B50
Magenta R50 G50 B50

Setttings>Connections>Game Mode Settings>Game Picture Expert: GameHDR Basic

I'm working on some tweaks for FMM also, should be available soon.

Are these the correct most recent settings with the input set to PC mode? I thought sharpness should be bumped up to 10 with PC mode?

 

AP 512 Cheat Sheet

BRIGHT ROOM SDR - MOVIE (160 nits)
Brightness 47
Contrast 38
Sharpness 0
Color 25
Tint 0
Contrast Enhancer OFF
Color Tone Warm 2
White Balance DEFAULT
BT.1886 0
Shadow Detail 0
Color Space Settings Custom-BT.709
Peak Brightness Off
Red 81/65/55
Green 65/65/58
Blue 50/54/84
Yellow 57/68/52
Cyan 50/50/50
Magenta 76/58/70

DARK ROOM SDR - FILMMAKER (100 nits)
Brightness 27
Contrast 36
Sharpness 0
Color 25
Tint 0
Contrast Enhancer OFF
Color Tone Warm 2
White Balance DEFAULT
BT.1886 -1
Shadow Detail 0
Color Space Settings Custom-BT.709
Peak Brightness Off
Red 81/65/55
Green 65/65/58
Blue 50/54/84
Yellow 57/68/52
Cyan 50/50/50
Magenta 76/58/70

BRIGHT ROOM HDR - MOVIE (DTM)
Brightness 50
Contrast 50
Sharpness 0
Color 21
Tint 0
Contrast Enhancer OFF
HDR Tone mapping ACTIVE
Color Tone Warm 2
White Balance DEFAULT
ST.2084 OR HLG (SKY STREAM) 0
Shadow Detail 0
Color Space Settings CUSTOM-BT.2020
Red 32/68/33
Green 87/50/34
Blue 61/61/86
Yellow 50/50/50
Cyan 100/50/50
Magenta 70/85/95
Peak Brightness HIGH

DARK ROOM HDR - FILMMAKER (STM)
Brightness 50
Contrast 49
Sharpness 0
Color 21
Tint 0
Contrast Enhancer OFF
HDR Tone mapping STATIC
Color Tone Warm 2
White Balance DEFAULT
ST.2084 OR HLG (SKY STREAM) 0
Shadow Detail 0
Color Space Settings CUSTOM-BT.2020
Red 32/68/33
Green 87/50/34
Blue 61/61/86
Yellow 50/50/50
Cyan 100/50/50
Magenta 70/85/95
Peak Brightness HIGH

Suggested Picture clarity settings on all modes - Custom - BR 0/JR 3/CM OFF/NR OFF
Intelligent modes and energy saving features all disabled obviously.

 

AP 512 Cheat Sheet

BRIGHT ROOM SDR - MOVIE (160 nits)
Brightness 47
Contrast 38
Sharpness 0
Color 25
Tint 0
Contrast Enhancer OFF
Color Tone Warm 2
White Balance DEFAULT
BT.1886 -1
Shadow Detail 0
Color Space Settings Custom-BT.709
Peak Brightness Off
Red 81/65/55
Green 65/65/58
Blue 50/54/84
Yellow 57/68/52
Cyan 50/50/50
Magenta 76/58/70

DARK ROOM SDR - FILMMAKER (100 nits)
Brightness 27
Contrast 36
Sharpness 0
Color 25
Tint 0
Contrast Enhancer OFF
Color Tone Warm 2
White Balance DEFAULT
BT.1886 -1
Shadow Detail 0
Color Space Settings Custom-BT.709
Peak Brightness Off
Red 81/65/55
Green 65/65/58
Blue 50/54/84
Yellow 57/68/52
Cyan 50/50/50
Magenta 76/58/70

BRIGHT ROOM HDR - MOVIE (DTM)
Brightness 50
Contrast 50
Sharpness 0
Color 21
Tint 0
Contrast Enhancer OFF
HDR Tone mapping ACTIVE
Color Tone Warm 2
White Balance DEFAULT
ST.2084 OR HLG (SKY STREAM) 0
Shadow Detail 0
Color Space Settings CUSTOM-BT.2020
Red 32/68/33
Green 87/50/34
Blue 61/61/86
Yellow 50/50/50
Cyan 100/50/50
Magenta 70/85/95
Peak Brightness HIGH

DARK ROOM HDR - FILMMAKER (STM)
Brightness 50
Contrast 49
Sharpness 0
Color 21
Tint 0
Contrast Enhancer OFF
HDR Tone mapping STATIC
Color Tone Warm 2
White Balance DEFAULT
ST.2084 OR HLG (SKY STREAM) 0
Shadow Detail 0
Color Space Settings CUSTOM-BT.2020
Red 32/68/33
Green 87/50/34
Blue 61/61/86
Yellow 50/50/50
Cyan 100/50/50
Magenta 70/85/95
Peak Brightness HIGH

Suggested Picture clarity settings on all modes - Custom - BR 0/JR 3/CM OFF/NR AUTO
Intelligent modes and energy saving features all disabled obviously.

Hi L337Fool
I am trying to create DV block whit my vrroom and I am using yours AP 512 calibrations settings but I am not sure which RGB x/y color coordinate to use.

 

Settings Offerings By Other Providers (updated 12/5):

@agkss
AP 667 (S90C to S95C Mod) SDR and HDR Settings Recommendations

@aron7awol
S95C (HDR S90C w/ AP 512 Compatible) Settings Recommendations w/ EDR & CCSS files for calibration

@Dark-007
Full Service Menu Level Configuration for SDR and HDR NEW!!!

@DarkHorse88
AP 588 FMM SDR & HDR Settings Recommendations

@vitaliy vasylkov (Note: His FMM SDR settings are featured on this page and all of my current HDR settings recommendations were edited by him)
AP 512/667 Final FMM HDR & Game Mode HDR Basic settings
Vitaliy's "BAC" variant BT.2020 FMM settings recommendations
FMM HDR BT.2020 SM Level settings recommendations and non SM equivalent
Game SDR "Original" and Game Mode HDR Basic DCI-P3 CMS adjustments
FMM HDR DCI-P3 Settings Recommendations (bottom of post)
FMM HDR DCI-P3 SM Level settings recommendations
140 nit SDR settings recommendations
SM Level BT.2020 corrections w/ PC Game expert menu supplement
S95C&S90C w/Mod 100 Nit 2.4 Gamma FMM/MM SDR Settings w/ Test Results
S95C&S90C w/Mod Combined SM&EM level adjustments for HDR (links/directory) NEW!!!

 

Thanks for starting this thread! I also have a 588 ana peak value with my 55" S90C. Are you still using that ana peak value for your settings? I also would like to know what your PLC default luminance value is. I look forward to all of your posts on this thread.

 

588 and 38 respectively. I plan to keep my S90C stock aside from QoL changes like enabling PVR and disabling Auto Game Bar. I'm looking forward to it too! Thanks for the encouragement.

 

This thread is great! I have a weird obsession with optimizing the settings with 0 “know how” and even less ability to tell if what I’m looking at is accurate. Two of my kids love “native” mode and the oldest wants it to look “accurate” 😂. My wife is sick of hearing about it. I used your latest settings on my PS5 and it looks great. Thanks for doing this.

 

What settings did you use for the ps5??

 

great idea thx to you mate.

 

Thanks for posting these. I’m currently setup using Movie mode, what is the advantage of FMM over Movie mode?

 

There isn't one (they are the same) but generally speaking for the sake of organization FMM can be your more conservative config for critical viewing and MM less conservative. In my case I set MM to be a bit brighter. It will probably be FMM = 100 nits and MM = 160 nits for me when all is said and done. I'll probably provide the accurate 200 nit values for those who need more punch. With HDR (may add MM later) it's really just employing "active"/DTM to deal with brighter environments.

 

Thanks for setting this thread.

I have S90C with a 2nd gen panel bit with 512 Ana Peak.
I will calibrate my set in October once it will have enough hours and share my results here.

 

Hello,

What are the settings to apply with The Windows HDR Calibration app for win 11? with my "old" LGC1 I had followed this tuto but now I'm lost because no one mentions it.

 

You should not really have to jump through hoops here. Just ignore the test pattern windows for everything after the near black pattern and set the others to the actually peak brightness of the display. Approximately 1050 nit for ANA PEAK 512 I believe and 1150 for for ANA PEAK 588. This is with GameHDR Basic enabled (GC 15 w/ custom BT.2020 settings recommended).

 

After evaluating the game under various conditions/scenes here are my recommended S90C (2nd Gen/588 ANAPEAK) Cyberpunk 2077 2.0/Phantom Liberty HDR10 PQ Settings.

Values based on Game Mode HDR configuration found here.

 

Interesting seeing "Tone-Mapping Midpoint" at 1.20, from the desc it sounds like 1.00 would be the most correct value.
What does the EOTF and luminance-curve look like with these settings?
Do you have any more in-depth information on how the tonemapping midpoint manipulates the image?

 

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I want to mention something about second gen panels. I had to get my S90C 65inch replaced cause it had a stuck pixel and considering it was a 1st gen panel (originally thought I had 2nd gen), I figure this is my chance for a 2nd gen. It arrived today and the sticker on the back has a date of September 2023 (Mexico), though the anapeak values are 682. So apparently they were still making 1st gen panels up till September, or still are for that matter, or 682 being a first gen panel is not correct. Major bummer though. Is it concrete this is a 1st panel or misinformation that they're not making 1st gen panels anywhere? I recall reading a bunch of threads that indicate they stopped making 1st gen panels months ago...

I dont know if the September date means anything then based on when the panel was made...It can be deceptive though cause at first I got my hopes up with the September date, but it basically means nothing apparently.

 

I want to mention something about second gen panels. I had to get my S90C 65inch replaced cause it had a stuck pixel and considering it was a 1st gen panel (originally thought I had 2nd gen), I figure this is my chance for a 2nd gen. It arrived today and the sticker on the back has a date of September 2023 (Mexico), though the anapeak values are 682. So apparently they were still making 1st gen panels up till September, or still are for that matter, or 682 being a first gen panel is not correct. Major bummer though. Is it concrete this is a 1st panel or misinformation that they're not making 1st gen panels anywhere? I recall reading a bunch of threads that indicate they stopped making 1st gen panels months ago... I dont know if the September date means anything then based on when the panel was made...It can be deceptive though cause at first I got my hopes up with the September date, but it basically means nothing apparently.

Hi, what version did it say on the box? I just went to best buy and found serial below SN: 0FLB3CAW600Version: FA01 I believe I read somewhere that the version can also determine if it is Gen 1 or 2. I wonder if these are still 1st Gen

 

Sorry for the late response, but I have serial number- 0FL83CAW901490K. I dont think the software version would have anything to do with the panel though.

 

Thanks for putting this together. I was curious why contrast is set to 48 in the HDR settings.

 

No problem, I'm looking forward to filling it up we more info as time goes on. Contrast was reduced slightly to correct over tracking thus preserving detail. These panels are significantly brighter than their predecessors even when they are software limited/capped. They need to be reined in just a little bit even @ A_P 588.