Wrong section mate but I will answer anyway.

As tv's have gotten bigger, the panel uniformity has suffered.

I can imagine the 115" TCL tv having atrocious banding and dirty screen effect etc.

I've owned 4 OLEDS
55" LG B7
65" LG B7
65" Panny GZ950
77" LG CX

All have uniformity issues near black and banding in dark scenes.

My last LED tv, 55" Sony W829 had dirty screen effect, motion banding and light bleed.

My Epson LS800 at 120" has none of these issues. Perfect Uniformity.
It doesn't get as bright but I don't care as its in a dedicated theater room.

Also, I prefer the look of movies projected onto a screen over the tv's with their glossy glass.

Banding, light bleed and dirty screen effect etc would drive me crazy on a 115" screen.

 

Have to agree with above. Even my high-end from a few years back Sony 65" TV has enough dirty screen to be noticeable in pans. Very distracting.

Contrast, lumens, sharpness, etc. not a selling g point for me as I'm fine with what the PJ can do.

It would be nice to get rid of the projector fan noise though.

 

3 reasons its a NO for me.

1- TCL.
2- most importantly, no 3D.
3- all of the above mentioned on the other post.

i prefer to have an UST and a floor riser screen in my living room rather than a mammoth that is overpriced made mostly of cheap plastic.

What's next, you gonna tell people what is the point for a receiver and speakers since this tv model has 6.2.2 atmos coming directly from the TV ?

 

imagine trying to play panel roulette with a 115” television…

 

Is it accoustically transparent?

 

Depends on the time frame. I don't see projection technology being replaced in the 10yr but beyond that it will depend on whether there is a revolutionary improvement in projection technology.
Personally if size is comparable, ie less than 12" I would go for tv, though not TCL.

 

A big screen monitor is fine--if that is all you are using it for.

If you are using one for movies, then using an acoustic screen like they do at actual theaters is your best bet. Can't put the 3 to 5 or whatever format amount of speakers behind a solid object so for those demands, screens are best--and why they are still used at theaters.

Projectors can also be retracted into a ceiling and the screen rolls up itself. Very popular for business purposes in areas that have multiple uses.

For me, I have no use for a 115" screen projector or otherwise and use proper speaker systems for movies. For my use, the big screen is for movies so that includes sound done correctly.

I did check my crystal ball, it tells me the future... no conclusive answer because AI took over and eliminated the need for forums. The robots are coming!

 

A big screen monitor is fine--if that is all you are using it for.

If you are using one for movies, then using an acoustic screen like they do at actual theaters is your best bet. Can't put the 3 to 5 or whatever format amount of speakers behind a solid object so for those demands, screens are best--and why they are still used at theaters.

Projectors can also be retracted into a ceiling and the screen rolls up itself. Very popular for business purposes in areas that have multiple uses.

For me, I have no use for a 115" screen projector or otherwise and use proper speaker systems for movies. For my use, the big screen is for movies so that includes sound done correctly.

I did check my crystal ball, it tells me the future... no conclusive answer because AI took over and eliminated the need for forums. The robots are coming!

The robots have been here for some time. Think "They Live" ... hiding behind the internet, disguised as humans. "Walking" among us. Interacting, controlling through psychological means, until people can no longer think for themselves, except to think what they have been told by these creatures. But, hey, all we have to do is to turn off our phones and computers and radios and TVs all will be well!

 

How about this
It weighs over 200 pounds

 

This is a determining factor for me. I'd love to go massive screen panel, but the weight and general size of getting that to a condo just doesn't work for my current set up. The flexibility of a UST is something that doesn't get enough credit.

 

When I get my Hanson or Tesla bot, I want the Arny voice...
The Hanson ones look humanoid, Scarlett Johannsen actually... They use them as medical assistants in hospitals across the pond and wanted to make sure people would notice they are a robot. Not many Scarletts in Hong Kong so it makes sense.

The latest thing is you can get a bot that will create humans. Yep, you need to be a male though, they can get all the goodies they need and you can build a human--let the bot take care of the construction. Alas, you can't do that with a female, they don't have all the stuff required but their male friend can hook you up.

So if you see Scarlett Johannson mowing my lawn--just my bot, don't be alarmed. I thought it was funny when they told Scarlett J about the medical bots, she was honored. Then she thought about it...just medical assistants, right? Ya know, no "other" uses? Uhhh... yeah, I guess.

They even have a word for that--people that prefer the company of robots are called...digisexuals. Yep, here comes Black Mirror.

 

The size of large tv's is increasing and the prices are reducing. I'm sure the weight will decrease over time as well. My question is how much more can UST projectors evolve from today's units? Will ambient light always be a projectors Achilles heel?

 

This is why UST and Fresnel screens exist, at various gain levels.

Moreover, we're likely to see a pretty big jump given ALPD5.0 is starting to roll out, and I suspect DLP chipsets will get a decent upgrade in the coming years. Won't be this year or next, but I suspect by 2025 or 2026.

 

call me when you hit 150" and it's modular - 4 75" panels

115" is simply not at all immersive to me.

 

What's the point of a projector

Bigger picture. Better audio. Less cumbersome to move and setup in some ways (weight and size) and the option to use retractable screens.

But on the other hand I think it will be great for people who want a big TV (bright room, ambient light, etc) so it may replace projectors in some places where projectors werent the right solution to begin with (Like maybe some UST situations?)

 

I feel that watching projector is not eye straining as compared to a tv.
Eyes feel tired if watch TV for long but not projector.

 

Simple reason for that. Direct lit vs indirect lit. Same reason an Amazon Kindle is easier on the eyes for reading than an iPad.

 

I'll need it to roll up into the ceiling and have 3D. Then I'll give up my projector. I just got a Samsung Frame-I've had all the glossy reflections I can stand. So in a sense, I guess I wanted my TV to mimic my projector, not the other way around. And, they can keep all their smart features, too. I'll get the ones I want in a dedicated box (Nvidia Shield Pro at the moment).

 

I have a dedicated theater room with a Sony 4K Laser projector. But to be honest, with TVs getting bigger, I have been staying in my room more nowadays. Projectors can't come anywhere close to a TV in terms of brightness (very important for HDR), and black levels. I have yet to see a projector that even come close to what a good mini-led tv can do, much less an OLED.

Right now, TCL has a top of the line 115 inch TV, which is bigger than most USTs for example. And picture quality simply can't compare. USTs are dead.

And they may be coming up with a 130 inch TV as well.

But the sad truth is none of them has 3D and neither does the newer Sony projectors. Everyone seems to have given up on 3D going forward. I still love 3D more than anything else. Of course eventually VR glasses can achieve what neither TVs nor Projectors can. Just need to wait till they can make them without the screen-door effect. Crazy pixel density.

 

There's nothing as satisfying as popping a new bulb into your projector, and reliving the first time you used it when you brought her home 😊

My 14-year-old Pioneer Elite PRO-FPJ1 is only 1080P, but I have no desire to upgrade. Just finished re-watching The Pacific, and both the series and the picture were excellent.

I guess I'm a little strange, because I've always found 4K images, especially on LED TVs, to be annoying, distracting, and 'unreal' looking. Not sure why that is. Maybe it's something you get used to after a while.

 

All the people who bought a projector in the past 2 years will say NO and all the people on the cusp of replacing their projector setup will say MAYBE. Both have their pluses and minuses!

 

I can’t fit a 115” TV up the stairs into my house….

 

If it weighed less than 60lbs and had a mat screen like on Samsung Art TV, I would buy one.

The issue is always going to be the center channel, but I see Sony is now incorporating their technology to use two center channels, one above and one below screen.

 

So TCL is releasing a 115 inch tv for $10K RRP .

What's the point of a projector , unless you need bigger screen sizes like 150 or 200" ?

For me, the point of a projector is to emulate the reflected image I see when I visit the cinema. Aside from its legacy 24p judder, the circle of confusion from the projector lens combines with the inherent softening qualities of a screen to present a familiar comforting smoothness that complements the suspension of disbelief that is necessary when telling a story.

 

Every single review on projectors is based on brightness and colour accuracy ..2 things that no projector to date can match when compared to a decent television.. I have always known projectors will have a short term and have invested accordingly in projector tech in my 10 years of owning projectors to emulate the big screen experience. IMO once TVs reach 120 inch its game over for projectors. I love my current Epson TW 7100 but a projected image will never ever be able to match an image displayed directly on a screen that is controllable by hardware and software..sure it may not be "cinematic" because cinema is projected image but then Tinder is not really dating and Kodak is dead because digital photography won. This is a forum of projector enthusiasts but I have no doubt that projectors are on their last legs

 

Personally I'm bored of projectors, I've had a dozen JVC ones too, now I have a UST, the brand doesn't matter. In recent days I have tried an Oled Sony X83A80L (in Italy it can be bought for €4000). Gentlemen, there are no stories or comparisons. Oled forever and welcome the 95 mini LEDs from TCL and Hisense

 

There's no doubt the picture on an OLED is phenomenal, especially jawdropping with well mastered HDR content.

However, I like to watch in a completely dark room and now have a dedicated home theater.
Before I got my projector, when watching high nit HDR movies on my OLED's, I would often end up with eye strain. That was on 65" and 77" sizes.

I'm of the opinion that a 120" OLED screen which could pump out 700+ nits would cause serious eye damage in a fully darkened room.

 

I also have a dedicated theater room completely dark and purpose built.. from the carpets to the paint and the acoustic panels...given that a telly offers way more adjustment options to the brightness or colours I find the argument of eye strain a bit odd. Eye strain is not the issue IMO, the issue would be getting a 120 inch or 150 inch television and wall mounting it ...its not an if ..when tellys are light enough and big enough and cheap enough... projectors will die..barring the enthusiasts who still develop black and white film in their dark rooms...thats still a while away but not 20 years thats what the life of the laser projectors are. I am lucky enough to have my theatre room with the long throw and remarkably good for the price I paid Epson so I shall enjoy that and change the bulbs when needed and wait for it to boot up but as much as I love projectors I will admit that projectors .. long throw and short throw or USTs can no longer compete..When that happens..not if .. I shall chuck the 7100 into the bin , patch the projector mount on the ceiling and get a 120 inch telly hooked up to my modest 5.1.2 set up in my bat cave and adjust the brightness. But till that happens I have a premium 135 inch viewing experience including Dolby atmos.

 

its not an if ..when tellys are light enough and big enough and cheap enough... projectors will die

This ignores the use-case for those of us who don’t have the wall space for a telly and need a screen that will retract away when not in use. Even if I could get a 145” OLED for $100 I’d still need a projector setup for my room.

 

I see Sony is now incorporating their technology to use two center channels, one above and one below screen.

ssssshhhhh - don't tell the comb-filtering police

 

The TCL, if priced appropriately, will have a significant impact on the UST category for darn sure. Unlike the majority of us enthusiasts, a lot of UST purchases are by those who are looking for the 100" or 120" experience in their family room. They expect TV like performance from a projector in a brightly lit room, and they are willing to live with the compromise in brightness after they spend their $6,000+ on a Hisense or Samsung with a matching UST/ALR screen.

No, that's not the budget most of us are in for UST setups as we (once again, enthusiasts) often are finding the best deals.

If I was a sales guy, this would be a pretty easy sale in a bright family room for those who have the money.

People love talking about banding and such with televisions, and they aren't incorrect. Being fair, no display is flawless or perfect right now. Such is life. But, people love their LCD TVs as well as their OLED TVs. They like being able to see a TV across a room and not have to fight brightness issues. Many also enjoy the big screen experience in their basement or in a darkened room using a front projection setup. Many in the past few years have enjoyed the 120" big screen experience in their brighter family room with UST projectors and their matching screens producing a dim, but usable, image during the day in these family rooms.

But, anyone who thinks that more brightness isn't a massive factor when combined with the size and a reasonable price point is kidding themselves.

If you don't demand a retractable screen. It's a great option. If you do, then projectors rock and really are an awesome option/solution.

Those saying a 115" TV won't fit up their stairs may be right... But, I always wonder how they get drywall sheets into their homes. Those have about a 108" diagonal. So, not a massive difference between the TV and standard 4x8 drywall in the real world. It's not easy to get a TV that size up stairs or around corners, but it often is possible. Still, for those where it truly doesn't work, that's where projectors are awesome!

It's great to have choices. The TCL isn't going to kill front projection and not UST as well. But, it's going to be an option and will be bought by those that may have otherwise picked up a 120" UST projector in their family room.

I won't replace the 161" screen in my basement. It may go into my family room though where it would be an awesome upgrade.

 

Those saying a 115" TV won't fit up their stairs may be right... But, I always wonder how they get drywall sheets into their homes. Those have about a 108" diagonal. So, not a massive difference between the TV and standard 4x8 drywall in the real world. It's not easy to get a TV that size up stairs or around corners, but it often is possible. Still, for those where it truly doesn't work, that's where projectors are awesome!

The problem is the box size. Some vendors won’t take it out of box before it’s in the room it needs to be in. Also you get more clearances when there’s no flooring, stair rails, door casings installed. I just built a home and paid attention to most of this. I would’ve got that 115” tcl down in basement before all that. Now I couldn’t even get the 98” box. Forced me to go the projector route and at 120”. Glad I did cause the 120” size has been awesome plus the move theater like feel of the projected image. Certainly not my oled like blacks but it has its place again with the movie theater like experience.

 

Yes admitedlly if a retractable large screen experience is what is needed only a projector will currently suffice till the folding screens become reality and can exist without a crease.. but an active screen is way more brighter and colour accurate than a projected screen no matter the kind of surface the projected image is landing on .. no one can argue against that.. anyways the 120 inch telly for the price of a projector is a while off yet so lets enjoy the big screen experience that we have now thanks to projectors..