[SpectralD]



Quote:
Originally Posted by joker97 /forum/post/16562147


well i'm trying to find a center speaker that can play those deep voices without needing to use bass management. you know those deep voices that you get from trailer narrators ... next summer, warner bros presents ... which seemed to sound a lot bass-ier than it should, but it's cool to feel their rumbling voices. and i'd like to know the frequencies of those rumbles.

...

it's just been asked out of curiosity really.

Often there's no really tricky processing on those voice-over announcer spots, just careful use of EQ and compression, and maybe having the announcer right up on the mic. There are lots of ways to do it. Also, if you haven't done this, try getting a signal generator and play a pure 80Hz tone through your setup. If you've got decent computer setup this is easy to do. Even 80Hz is lower than a lot of people give it credit for. On the other hand, that 'voice of satan' kind of thing in the movies will have all sorts of processing.


In any case, like others said, it should be fine to let the sub handle anything low.

 

[sivadselim]



Quote:
Originally Posted by SpectralD /forum/post/16565932


On the other hand, that 'voice of satan' kind of thing in the movies will have all sorts of processing.

God usually sounds that way, too.

 

[Greg_R]

 8Hz appears to be the record .

 

[Greg_R]

Another Google search showed that the lowest -written- note for voice was in a Mahler symphony (low B-flat)...

 

[SpectralD]



Quote:
Originally Posted by sivadselim /forum/post/16565997


God usually sounds that way, too.

Hehe, fair enough.

Well, like Dylan sez, you gotta serve somebody...

 

[jostenmeat]



Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg_R /forum/post/16566813


Another Google search showed that the lowest -written- note for voice was in a Mahler symphony (low B-flat)...

Neat. I think Ockeghem's insanely beautiful works might have got that low in the mid 15th century, but it's hard to say because there wasn't a pitch standard. He himself was renowned for having considerable extension. That said, if baroque musicians transpose their tuning from A440 to 415, would we suspect a low tuning during the early Renaissance? Who knows.


FWIW, I have pretty poor range for a bass, and cannot hit the E. F sounds guttural, and F# is ok on a good day, or G on any day.

 

[Denophile]

to me the bigger issue is how voices are presented via the center--to me it sounds better to have the center produce the whole spectrum pf human voice as passing that off to the 4 subs exaggerates the resonance of the low voice. to improve/maximize coherency I personally like to keep my front 3 set to large and keep the subs down to 60-65hz so as to avoid excess vocal resonance in the midbass, which my main and center speakers present very nicely--not a setup ideal for everyone but in my theater/listening room with my setup it works well. i like to keep the subs as much out of the vocal range as possible.

 

[ekb]



Quote:
Originally Posted by penngray /forum/post/16564063


Besides knowing why, does it matter if any voicing below 70Hz goes through your CC or your Subs?

But it won't play thru his sub because he believes that he's got a full spectrum speaker and will set it to large.


Ed

 

[joker97]



Quote:
Originally Posted by Denophile /forum/post/16567530


to me the bigger issue is how voices are presented via the center--to me it sounds better to have the center produce the whole spectrum pf human voice as passing that off to the 4 subs exaggerates the resonance of the low voice. to improve/maximize coherency I personally like to keep my front 3 set to large and keep the subs down to 60-65hz so as to avoid excess vocal resonance in the midbass, which my main and center speakers present very nicely--not a setup ideal for everyone but in my theater/listening room with my setup it works well. i like to keep the subs as much out of the vocal range as possible.

that's my friend! my center is louder than the rest and the sub blows out of proportion when an explosion hits the center. *sigh can't win them all: the only way is to get another 9.6 - but it wont happen. will probably just get the CM and then complain to you guys.

 

[tvrgeek]

40 Hz, no sweat. His ninkname was bullfrog. Heck, even I can get to 55.

 

[MLKstudios]



Quote:
Originally Posted by Denophile /forum/post/16567530


to me the bigger issue is how voices are presented via the center--to me it sounds better to have the center produce the whole spectrum pf human voice as passing that off to the 4 subs exaggerates the resonance of the low voice. to improve/maximize coherency I personally like to keep my front 3 set to large and keep the subs down to 60-65hz so as to avoid excess vocal resonance in the midbass, which my main and center speakers present very nicely--not a setup ideal for everyone but in my theater/listening room with my setup it works well. i like to keep the subs as much out of the vocal range as possible.

A good movie theater has two 15" woofers for each L/C/R speaker with a drop off around 30 Hz. Subs are multiple 18" with a 22 Hz bottom. A big BOOM at 22 Hz does more than a small boom at 20 Hz or lower. Note the dual 18's have a 4800 watt peak, and 4 of them yield 146 dB's.

http://www.jblpro.com/catalog/genera...x?PId=81&MId=1

http://www.jblpro.com/catalog/Genera...?PId=205&MId=1

 

[penngray]



Quote:
Originally Posted by ekb /forum/post/16568197


But it won't play thru his sub because he believes that he's got a full spectrum speaker and will set it to large.


Ed

Well, change the setting to small

 

[Geoveik]

I have been looking for a center speaker. All other things being equal, could anyone tell me the lowest frequency coming out of a deep voice (POST PROCESSING!)?


40Hz? 50Hz? 60Hz? 70Hz? 100Hz?

Surely not lower than 40Hz even with sound processing that makes those narrators of trailers sound so incredibly deep?


Would be interesting to know if anyone knows! Google did not give any answers.

I have been looking for a center speaker. All other things being equal, could anyone tell me the lowest frequency coming out of a deep voice (POST PROCESSING!)?


40Hz? 50Hz? 60Hz? 70Hz? 100Hz?

Surely not lower than 40Hz even with sound processing that makes those narrators of trailers sound so incredibly deep?


Would be interesting to know if anyone knows! Google did not give any answers.

I have been said to have a low voice ever since I was 13 and the more I age the lower it gets. I made some tests using apps, all though I do recognize I shouldn't trust them, so I did another test with an professional. My voice can reach as high as 220hz and as low as 52hz currently, I average about 83,6Hz, this is without processing just normal usual talking.

 

[PrimeTime]

Two of the lower male vocals I can recall offhand: the Russian male chorus in Rachmaninoff's All Night Vigil, and the title drone voice in Philip Glass' Koyaanisqatsi.

 

[PrimeTime]

^^ Speaking of All Night Vigil and the tradition of Russian bass voices, the Wikipedia entry on Basso profundo discusses this topic in detail.