No love for PSB?

CS AIC 860 (IN-CEILING 15 degree angled woofer baffle with fully pivoting/aimable tweeter)
CS AIC 860 – 6" Angled In-Ceiling Speaker - PSB Speakers

I'm seeing $649 each on Crutchfield and $849 a pair on eBay ($427.50 each)

These go well with the PSB Imagine series of speakers according to their documentation.

 

No love for the Focal 300 iclcr5? I use them in my theater room and love them

Added both to my first post

Remember I wasn't saying my list was anything other than what I found with a quick internet search.
I am not personally recommending any of these speakers - simply listing what is available.

 

No love for the Focal 300 iclcr5? I use them in my theater room and love them

 

I see that the bass speaker sound will bounce off the front or back walls of the theater and then towards the listener. How well does that work?

 

Drawing is nicely illustrative. What about bring all ceiling speakers bit closer to the listeners?

 

You will still be right on the edge of good dispersion. IMO you don't wan't to be more than 15deg off-axis to most speakers.

Not in-ceiling… but I use on-ceiling SVS Prime Elevations. They have about a 20 degree slant. At $250 each they fall in that price gap.

I will add an on-ceiling section since there are a few of them available.

Your link to the RSL C34e's is to the now-discontinued speakers.

I will update all my links to try and point to manufacturers website.

Many of us have couches quite close to the rear wall,
My ears are 2 feet in front of the back wall.
What would you suggest using for rears for that kind of "less than ideal" situation that can' t be changed for a 5.2.4?
In or on ceiling firing straight down?
In or on ceiling NOT aimed at the listener but angled at the rear wall for a "bounce" effect?
Thanks.

I was hoping to keep this thread focused on just what speakers are available. But since you asked - I have used the bounce effect for my side surrounds and the closer to the wall definitely helps so a pair directly above your head aimed at the rear wall could work but you would have to try it to see. Otherwise mounted on-wall at 45deg elevation from MLP could also work but may be tooc lose to your ears. Otherwise just mounted as close to the top rear corners as possible or just do a x.x.2 setup.

Revel C763L = $825 34 degrees

JBL SCL-5 = $2,200
JBL SCL-8 = $1,100

The JBL SCL series speakers use compression drivers, dispersion patterns show below. Both models can be crossed over at 80Hz.

I did see those but at the start I was only going to do 45deg options until I saw there was a very limited number so I expanded down to 15deg and forgot about the JBLs.
Will add them to the list. But they are a strange beast with 15deg angled mids and 45deg angled tweeters and lookng at the drawing they may be designed to be listened to off-axis ? will investigate further.

Chane A4.5
15 degree baffle
At $299 a pair they are the middle priced option.

Chane A4.5

The Chane A4.5 onwall surround and effects speaker perfectly matches your Chane A Series music and cinema system,

www.chanemusiccinema.com

I miss read the title of this post. My recommendation was for an on wall/ceiling speaker.
Here's another suggestion that I was recently looking at and falls within the mid priced category for an in-ceiling angled speaker. Sorry about the mis-post earlier, hope this makes up for it.

Clearus C8C Angled 8" In-Ceiling Speaker Single

The Clearus C8C is an easy-to-install 8" round speaker designed for in-ceiling use. This set of two is perfect for humid and damp spaces such as bathrooms, kitchens, and covered porches.

www.aperionaudio.com

Will add them to my on-ceiling section.

Updates probably won't be for a few weeks when I get time to sit down and update all my links and add all the new ones.
If you want to help you could repost all your new ones with the manufactuers link

 

Not in-ceiling… but I use on-ceiling SVS Prime Elevations. They have about a 20 degree slant. At $250 each they fall in that price gap.

https://www.dpbolvw.net/click-84427...BhBkEiwAxutUVF-AgrV9FhDWlc1mXJ86draXWHTOQcdjfYTlb0DneonCcp9Df-kInhoCzYsQAvD_BwE

 

Every time I see them mentioned, I have to say it - the RSL's are amazing as Atmos speakers. I love them and will use them in every Atmos setup I do.

 

Your link to the RSL C34e's is to the now-discontinued speakers. The replacement is the C34e MKII:

The New C34E MKII Is Now Available!

The C34EMKII introduces audiophile-grade sound and parts to an in-ceiling platform that is suitable for ALL applications; from Atmos and surrounds, to home theater mains and stereo.

rslspeakers.com

Otherwise, this is a terrific list. I've bookmarked the post and will refer people to it going forward. Thanks for doing this!

Craig

 

Ideally you want all speakers in your home theatre setup aimed at the listeners. Which means 45deg angled baffle in-ceiling speakers for a x.x.2 and x.x.4 setup, 30deg for front and rear and 45deg for middles in a x.x.6 setup.

Many of us have couches quite close to the rear wall,

My ears are 2 feet in front of the back wall.

What would you suggest using for rears for that kind of "less than ideal" situation that can' t be changed for a 5.2.4?

In or on ceiling firing straight down?

In or on ceiling NOT aimed at the listener but angled at the rear wall for a "bounce" effect?

Thanks.

 

Many of us have couches quite close to the rear wall,

My ears are 2 feet in front of the back wall.

What would you suggest using for rears for that kind of "less than ideal" situation that can' t be changed for a 5.2.4?

In or on ceiling firing straight down?

In or on ceiling NOT aimed at the listener but angled at the rear wall for a "bounce" effect?

Thanks.

Geoff, I use small bookshelf speakers on articulated mounts to point as closely to my ears as possible. My couch is unfortunately against the back wall.

 

Revel C763L list price is $825, angle is 34 degrees.

JBL SCL-5 = $2,200
JBL SCL-8 = $1,100

The JBL SCL series speakers use compression drivers, dispersion patterns show below. Both models can be crossed over at 80Hz.

 

This is a great idea for a thread I'm following and really looking forward to all the options getting put out here will definetly link this thread for people looking for good options for atmos in ceiling speakers

 

Chane A4.5
15 degree baffle
At $299 a pair they are the middle priced option.

Chane A4.5

The Chane A4.5 onwall surround and effects speaker perfectly matches your Chane A Series music and cinema system,

www.chanemusiccinema.com

 

Chane A4.5
15 degree baffle
At $299 a pair they are the middle priced option.

Chane A4.5

The Chane A4.5 onwall surround and effects speaker perfectly matches your Chane A Series music and cinema system,

www.chanemusiccinema.com

I miss read the title of this post. My recommendation was for an on wall/ceiling speaker.
Here's another suggestion that I was recently looking at and falls within the mid priced category for an in-ceiling angled speaker. Sorry about the mis-post earlier, hope this makes up for it.

Clearus C8C Angled 8" In-Ceiling Speaker Single

The Clearus C8C is an easy-to-install 8" round speaker designed for in-ceiling use. This set of two is perfect for humid and damp spaces such as bathrooms, kitchens, and covered porches.

www.aperionaudio.com

 

@niterida

I'm not clear on what you mean.

"I did see those but at the start I was only going to do 45deg options until I saw there was a very limited number so I expanded down to 15deg and forgot about the JBLs. Will add them to the list. But they are a strange beast with 15 deg angled mids and 45 deg angled tweeters and looking at the drawing they may be designed to be listened to off-axis ? will investigate further."

C763L, SCL-5 and SCL-8 are designed to be used as Atmos speakers, located off axis and aimed at the listening are to get on axis response. Re: the C763L, but the tweeter and midrange drivers are angled on one side and the woofer on the other side (I don't have the exact specs, but read somewhere it's 34 degrees). You aim the tweeter/midrange side at the listening area.

Here are the SCL specs:

High Frequency Coverage Angle (-6 dB)	60-degree Vertical (Up 30-degree, Down 30-degree, from 45-degree Vertical Center line), 120-degree Horizontal, from 2k Hz to 10k Hz.

 

@niterida

I'm not clear on what you mean.

"I did see those but at the start I was only going to do 45deg options until I saw there was a very limited number so I expanded down to 15deg and forgot about the JBLs. Will add them to the list. But they are a strange beast with 15 deg angled mids and 45 deg angled tweeters and looking at the drawing they may be designed to be listened to off-axis ? will investigate further."

C763L, SCL-5 and SCL-8 are designed to be used as Atmos speakers, located off axis and aimed at the listening are to get on axis response. Re: the C763L, but the tweeter and midrange drivers are angled on one side and the woofer on the other side (I don't have the exact specs, but read somewhere it's 34 degrees). You aim the tweeter/midrange side at the listening area.

Here are the SCL specs:

High Frequency Coverage Angle (-6 dB)	60-degree Vertical (Up 30-degree, Down 30-degree, from 45-degree Vertical Center line), 120-degree Horizontal, from 2k Hz to 10k Hz.

Like I said - the JBL are a strange beast
I wasn't quoting exactly from the specs but just pointing out they weren't true 45deg - I just saw they had different angles for different drivers and wasn't sure exactly how they worked.
But the specs are at -6db and only 2khz and up - to me that doesn't look as good as drivers pointing straight at you - but since this isn't supposed to be about how good, bad or indifferent speakers are I will certainly add them to the list.

 

GoldenEar Invisa HTR7000 - $649
GoldenEar Invisa HTR9000 - $999

I’ve not used the 9000 in a job yet.

 

Can you post manufacturer website links for me please.

 

So I currently have 2 micca 8” ceiling speakers for atmos. I am looking to move to a 4 speaker setup. Thinking about either the RSL c34e or the Klipsch CDT-5800-C II. Both are very similar in price. Any opinion on which would be better choice. I plan on powering them with a Emotiva basx a4. Thanks.

 

Thanks for the list. Of course, it all depends on speaker dispersion (and designed usage) and placement in the ceiling. Thanks again.

 

I have Silver Ticket 82AC angled ceiling speakers in my HT, another one to add to your list:

82AC Silver Ticket 8" 120-Watt Angled 2-Way In-Ceiling Speaker with Pivoting Tweeter (1 Speaker, White)

Thousands and thousands sold - the Silver Ticket 8 inch 120-Watt 2-Way In-Ceiling Speaker is a versatile speaker meant for anything from simple stereo applications to whole-home audio and theater systems. Suitable for 5.1, 6.1, and 7.1 home systems. The woofer cone is injection-mold mica...

www.silverticketproducts.com

 

Dynaudio has a few with their s4 series:

In-ceiling speaker - All Dynaudio in-ceiling speakers

In this category, you will find all in-ceiling speakers. Learn about the full range of high-end Dynaudio in-ceiling speakers and find a dealer near you.

www.dynaudio.com

 

What about speakers with angle-able tweeters? Like my cheap monoprice calibers

 

@niterida

The Paradigm you listed in the 1st post has some cousins. I have these installed:

CI Pro P80-A

8 Round In-Ceiling, 2-driver, 2-way in-ceiling, 30°-Angled Guided Soundfield System, SHOCK-MOUNT Isolation Mounting System, nylon-blended rigid baffle

www.paradigm.com

which cost retail $500 from my dealer/installer. Sadly I paid exactly retail. But I know you can get them cheaper elsewhere.

You may as well point to the main selection page for Paradigm's in-ceiling speakers, as many of those are either angled or designed to be installed angled.

In-ceiling speakers

www.paradigm.com

 

Definitive Technology is another option.

I have the RCS III as mains and RSS III as surrounds in a 7.2 non-atmos setup. Have an infinite baffle for subs (all speakers in ceiling, Ib subs replaced black PSA boxes as the large vents in my tray ceiling). Thinking I might try this setup in a 5.2.2 Atmos if I ever upgrade my receiver.

In-Wall & In-Ceiling Speakers | Definitive Technology™

Definitive Technology's in-wall and in-ceiling speakers vanish into any room to reveal powerful performance hidden beneath the surface. Shop today.

www.definitivetechnology.com

 

I can add a +1 to the need for angled speakers. I have an odd and many would consider terrible layout in my den for the TV and speakers, and my listening spot is about 36" off center. I've had 5.1 for years with high surrounds (10 ft ceilings) and decided to redo my setup for ATMOS with new low surrounds and for the new middles, I had to go with high ceiling mounts. I like Klipsch speakers and have a Klipsch center, so for the surrounds I bought Klipsch R5502-W II with a pivoting horn because my listening spot is about 5 feet forward of the speakers. I first bought Klipsch R-1800's for the middles which fire straight down. I thought this would be fine since they are even (front to back) with my chair. They sounded very good but I was not getting distinct separation width or height. After seeing other articles about about direction for the middle channels I replaced them with Klipsch CDT5800-C-II's with each one directed at my chair. The direction made a very noticeable difference over the straight down ceiling speakers. So to add tho the list, the directional Klipsch R5502-W II in wall surrounds with CDT-5800-C II's ceiling middles are a good choice.

 

‘do you have any experience comparing the klipsch to the RSL. Looking to upgrade my atmos and currently looking at those two options.

 

Quick question about aiming the Atmos speakers towards the MLP. Majority is aimed towards the center since this is where the MLP is located. But what if the MLP is at the right seat in a 3 seater sofa? Do we then aim the speakers towards the right side?

 

I did aim them individually at my chair in the den. Very rarely is anyone else watching movies with me. Also my Marantz AVR stores two surround calibration "set points"... for lack of a better word. For one, I didn't move the mic from my chair, for the other I moved it around to the couches and chair where other folks are most likely to sit.

 

This thread is talking about angled speakers, right? ie. the entire speaker itself can be angled. Like many I also have a couch up against a back wall. I have 2 in-ceiling speakers directly above about 6" back from MLP. The tweeters can be angled up to 45deg, but only the tweeters. Does angling the tweeters help this situation and if so, angled back to bounce off top of rear wall? Angled forward towards where a Top Middle ceiling is supposed to be located? Angled so pointing at MLP?

Or since it's only the tweeters, no angling does much good at all?

 

You all almost had me with the RSL hype. Then I started searching and found this thread that confirmed that the Miccas are great full in-ceiling speakers that seem to have a descent dispersion pattern so I am going to keep my $600 for now.

 

Outdoor Speaker Depot has some:

Angled Dolby Atmos In-Ceiling Speakers | Outdoor Speaker Depot

 

How about angled in-wall surrounds? Is that important? I'll be installing my surrounds in wall about a foot behind and above ear level, do i need to angle those to MLP?

 

Triad makes some. People use them for wides. Spec for side surrounds is 110 degrees to 90 so you should be fine with regular surrounds.